[NP-Clinical] Prayer subject not closed

Sun Aug 12 15:48:23 PDT 2007

AMEN! 

Robin Davis, FNP

Dena has a good point. If you don't want to participate in a particular
thread, just delete it and let others respond as they like. No big deal.
There are no message police here.

My opinion, not that anyone asked, is that although this is a professional
listserve, we are human beings, and prayers, poems, anecdotes, jokes, puns,
and an occasional photograph reflects parts of our culture and humanity.
Sharing these things enhances the quality of our lives and and our
interactions with fellow list members. A prayer might not be meaningful to
me, but it may make someone else's day. Let it be.

Peace to all,

Shelby Havens, ARNP

>From: Diana Galler <galdena at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: NP Clinical <np-clinical at nurse.net>
>To: NP Clinical <np-clinical at nurse.net>
>Subject: RE: [NP-Clinical] Prayer subject not closed
>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Linda--
>   You have the right to express your thoughts, feelings, and opinons any
>time you'd like. As Stephanie pointed out, no one on the list has the right
>to "close" any discussion or prevent anyone from speaking out. And, as you
>can see, even if anyone WAS to try it, it wouldn't work anyway!  <G>
>   Dena Galler
>
>Linda Marie De Zago <lindamarie76 at msn.com> wrote:
>         v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:*
>{behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  shape
>{behavior:url(#default#VML);}        st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
>Dear Stephanie (and any others) -
>
>   My deepest apologies.
>
>   I am sure that you did not realize that I had not verbalized my opinion
>earlier.
>
>   I was going through a week's worth of e-mails and responded to the
>thread without realizing that the subject had been discussed and "closed".
>
>   I am glad that I had the opportunity to share my thoughts with all of
>you here in cyber-world and hope that I am kept in mind when sending warm
>wishes.
>
>
>   Warmly - Linda
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>   From: np-clinical-bounces at nurse.net
>[mailto:np-clinical-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf Of
>stephanie2u at optonline.net
>Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:39 PM
>To: NP Clinical
>Subject: Re: [NP-Clinical] Prayer subject not closed
>
>
>     Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course.
>
>
>
>     My own personal opinion is that professional listserves should be
>religion-neutral. It all comes down to the traditional rule about avoiding
>politics and religion in social contexts, more especially when you're not
>well acquainted with the folks you are addressing. This is showing respect
>for the fact that everyone feels differently and their opinions don't have
>to be reconciled.
>
>
>
>     And those of us who wish to continue discussing any particular topic
>here will continue it, despite the people who keep announcing that the
>subject is closed. Most of us have the ability to delete messages without
>reading them if we're not interested in the subject. There's nothing wrong
>with healthy debate carried on in a courteous way. It looks to me like
>there are some people who are still interested in this thread since Linda
>just now spoke up.
>
>
>
>     Stephanie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>From: Linda Marie De Zago
>
>Date: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:27 am
>Subject: [NP-Clinical] Please send all transcultural prayers here!
>To: 'NP Clinical'
>
> > I thought the prayer was beautiful and worthwhile of sharing. In South
> > Florida trans-cultural sensitivity and understanding is a
> > priority. If it is
> > deemed to be offensive on this list then please send all prayers
> > regardlessof faith (or lack thereof) to my personal e-mail:
> > LindaMarie76 at msn.com
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: np-clinical-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:np-clinical-
> > bounces at nurse.net]On Behalf Of Diana Galler
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:50 PM
> > To: NP Clinical
> > Subject: Re: [NP-Clinical] Beautiful prayer
> >
> >
> >
> > Hold on-- holy crap-- no where did I even state my OWN religous
> > beliefs (or
> > lack thereof). And that's for a good reason-- it's no one's
> > business on this
> > list what my religous beliefs (or lack of) are. So, please don't
> > assume any
> > of you know WHAT they are or whether you agree or disagree with
> > them! I
> > could be a nun writing from a convent, I could be an Islamic
> > fundamentalistwriting from a cave in Afganhanistan, I could be a
> > Buddist monk writing from
> > a Chinese prison, I could be a born-again writing from a soapbox
> > on a busy
> > street corner, I could be writing in a trance from a spirtual
> > retreat, I
> > could be writing as I'm dancing naked around a fire in a forest
> > praying to
> > the supreme Goddess. You don't know... and does it make any
> > difference on
> > this PROFESSIONAL listserve who I'm praying to or not praying
> > to? That's the
> > point I'm trying to make... I certainly wasn't putting my OWN
> > beliefs out
> > there in public as I was asking someone else NOT to do the same
> > .
> >
> > Dena
> >
> > (okay-- I confess that I'm NOT a nun writing from a convent....)
> >
> > Venda Kelley wrote:
> >
> > ????? Please sign your posts. It makes it easier to address you
> > in a
> > professional manner.
> >
> > I do not feel Dena was rude in her comments. She deferred to the
> > writer'sviews, but gave her opinion on the validity of those
> > statements in the venue
> > they were presented. Please don't be offended. I do not agree
> > with Dena's
> > religious beliefs ( or lack of), but I understand her position
> > and I would
> > have to agree that this venue is no place for such comments.
> > Sending a
> > private message to the intended recipient would have been more
> > appropriate.
> > Venda
> >
> >
> > On 8/8/07 8:13 AM, "tudorancea at earthlink.net"
> > wrote:
> >
> > How do I unsubscribe from this list? I thought Dena's response
> > as a nurse
> > was very insensitive, irregardless of what her personal beliefs
> > are. As a
> > professional, we are required to be therapeutic in ALL our
> > interactions in
> > cluding our interactions with our peers. There was a nicer way
> > to politely
> > say what needed to be said.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Diana Galler
> >
> > To: NP Clinical
> >
> > Sent: 8/7/2007 10:44:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [NP-Clinical] Beautiful prayer
> >
> > I'm sorry, I realize you're new to the list but, with all due
> > respect, can
> > you please keep prayers off this professional list-serve? Not
> > all of us
> > believe in Saints, statues, or even God and this is not the
> > venue to discuss
> > or debate the issue. Thank you
> > Dena Galler
> >
> > Patricia.Thompson at hattiesburgclinic.com wrote:
> >
> > Good Morning Everyone,
> > I received an email and I thought about Kim and her husband.
> > Saint Theresa
> > is known as the Saint of Little Ways because she believed in
> > doing the
> > little things in life well and with great love. She is
> > represented by
> > roses. May everyone who receives this message be blessed. There
> > is nothing
> > attached. Prayer is one of the best free gifts we receive. I
> > am praying
> > for you and your husband Kim and everyone else be blessed.
> >
> > St. Theresa's Prayer:
> >
> > May today there be peace within. May you trust God that you are
> > exactlywhere you are meant to be.
> > May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of
> > faith. May
> > you use those gifts that you have received
> > and pass on the love that has been given to you. May you be
> > content knowing
> > you are a child of God.
> > Let this presence settle into your bones, and allow your soul
> > the freedom to
> > sing, dance, praise and love.
> > It is there for each and every one of us. Amen
> >
> > Patricia T CFNP
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