[NPInfo] NON-NURSE PhD in Nursing?
stephanie2u at optonline.net
stephanie2u at optonline.net
Mon Dec 3 13:44:14 PST 2007
Accreditation is one thing, regulation is another, am I wrong or right?
My understanding is (& correct me where I'm wrong):
Accreditation is the result of a national accrediting body's approval of an educational program. Like the National League FOR Nursing (which until recent years did not include many or any nurses, as I recall it).
Regulation is by the BON of each state, is for the protection of the public, and jurisdiction is over licensed individuals, to enforce the Nurse Practice Act. The BON is consulted when practice legislation and its subsequent rules and regulations are being drafted, but the BON does not make the laws. It is an unelected group of individuals made up of professionals and members of the public.
Since the BON is enforcing the Nurse Practice Act, the public may not need protecting from a Ph.D in Nursing (an RN with a Ph.D) since that person is already subject to the Nurse Practice Act as an RN.
The non-nursing Ph.D mentioned in previous posts supposedly doesn't allow the person to sit for the licensing board or practice as a RN (that is, to be an RN). So that person would not be subject to the Nurse Practice Act either. Whether their program is accredited would depend on its curriculum and other criteria. Nancy Balkon would know more about this than I do.
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Doerfler
Date: Monday, December 3, 2007 9:47 am
Subject: RE: [NPInfo] NON-NURSE PhD in Nursing?
To: 'NP Info'
> Please note that at least in Pennsylvania, the PhD in nursing
> (and the
> RN-to-BS) are the only degrees NOT regulated by the board of nursing.
> Perhaps this is true in Washington State too. In fact I imagine
> it is since
> I have heard there's no national acceditation standard for the
> doctorate in
> nursing (we were just reaccedited by NLNAC and they didn't
> review our PhD
> prgm in nsg). This may be true of other fields as well, and
> would explain
> why no licensure is needed or granted.
>
> R. Eric Doerfler, MSN, CRNP, CCH
> Instructor Of Nursing
> RN/BS Program Coordinator
> Penn State University, Capital Campus
> 777 W. Middletown Pike, Middletown PA 17057
> 717-948-6513 red1012 at psu.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net]
> On Behalf
> Of Nbalkon at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:53 PM
> To: npinfo at nurse.net
> Subject: [NPInfo] NON-NURSE PhD in Nursing?
>
> I don't understand? How are the following statements TRUE???
> One MUST be an
> RN to earn advanced degrees in nursing.
>
> 1. "I think there's a big difference in a nurse who has a PhD
> in another
> field (education, public health, etc) teaching nursing to
> nurses than a
> non-nurse with a PhD in nursing teaching nursing. Don't you???
>
> 2. "......"But then we have non-nurses getting MSN degrees as
> well so
> guess none of it makes any difference anymore."
>
> Nancy Balkon, PhD, ANP-C, APRN-CS, NPP
> Southern New York State Representative -- AANP Clinical
> Associate Professor,
> Stony Brook University School of Nursing
>
>
>
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