[NPInfo] Back to Tracy
Shelby Havens
shelbyhavens at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 10 15:27:13 PST 2007
Tracy:
I think the question is what can we do to attract the kinds of people into
the nursing profession who can move us in the direction you describe? We
need bright, innovative, independent thinkers. Otherwise, nursing will
continue to be a dependent profession forever.
Best Regards,
Shelby Havens, ARNP
>From: Tracy Klein <whcnp at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: NP Info <npinfo at nurse.net>
>To: npinfo at nurse.net
>Subject: [NPInfo] Re: Medicine/Nursing/Healthcare
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:32:48 -0800
>
>Framing the question as whether a nurse practices nursing or medicine
>really invites the erection of parallel fences. It generates a tremendous
>amount of legislative and statutory activity which some of you have posted
>here. It is the wrong question in my opinion.
>
>Nurses practice nursing. Physical therapists practice physical therapy.
>Both use assessment and diagnosis in their work. Say what you will about
>"nursing diagnosis" (and I can hear the buzzing already) it was an attempt
>to capture what nurses do in a measurable way to validate their practice
>and remove it from invisibility. When that was less than successful, the
>next step was for nursing to engage in a fight to use "medical diagnosis".
>Meanwhile, nurses mocked each other for "stupidly" trying to define their
>practice in a measurable way that someone who counts insurance beans or
>whatever could understand.
>
>While they were busy doing this, psychologists and social workers learned
>how to use DSM-IV, bill and get paid for it. Physical therapists set up
>their own practices, can do so without an MD order in our state anyhow,
>and happily use medical diagnosis and treat patients for what they see
>with modalities in their scope. Meantime, these folks seem to be able to
>educate themselves to establish a scope of practice, set up a business,
>ask for (and get) 100.00 or more dollars an hour, and are not being paid
>35-45.00 an hour to clean their own floors (thanks, retail clinics).
>
>Why can't we manage to do the same? Step outside of the paradigm which
>requires you to beg to be practicing medicine, using medical diagnosis,
>fighting every second to "defend" what you do. Start focusing on what you
>do and are educated to do, and don't apologize for it. But start working
>harder to describe, explain, define, professionalize, and support with
>real research that you do what you do. And much thanks to those who are
>busy engaging in such research and have taken more crap from nurses and
>nurse practitioners because they are not "real clinicians".
>
>Tracy Klein, WHCNP, FNP
>Portland, Oregon
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