[NPInfo] - go where the opportunities are - market economics dictate your value

Wed Nov 7 10:23:41 PST 2007

My daughter is a district manager for Starbucks, so I can get all the free
coffee we need. Since you are not a nurse, Dave, you will not be able to get
a nursing job but we would need your help getting PR and counseling these
nurses.

-----Original Message-----
From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf
Of David Mittman
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:36 AM
To: NPinfo
Subject: Re: OT Re: [NPInfo] i just got fired! - go where the opportunities
are - market economics dictate your value

And I'll get a job in Starbucks, so we all can eat and drink coffee for
cheap. Actually the guy who started/runs it went to my High School when I
did!
On 11/7/07 12:11 PM, "Calif NP" <np at c-zone.net> wrote:

> With California importing 10s of thousands of 'nurses'  and 'doctors' from
> other countries (we are stealing many countries providers), would it hurt
to
> buy some of these unemployed NPs/RNs a Greyhound ticket from
> Tenn/Oklahoma/Ky/Ga/etc. to California?  The Salvation Army, and other
> support groups/faith-based charities could shelter and feed these health
> care provider refugees until they got into a $100,000+ job as a RN or NP,
> then they could send money back home by Western Union to bring the rest of
> their relatives on out.  The older refugee RNs/NPs could die their hair
> black, peel most of the years of experience off of their resumes & still
be
> competitive for one of the 'new grads welcome' jobs for $70,000 a year -
it
> could be a humble start over.
> NPs/RNs out here could provide a network of 'safe houses', Starbucks,
> laundry/ironing for their scrubs, and high speed internet/DSL so they
could
> go online and apply to work at some of these Dept of Corrections RN/NP
jobs
> which range from $85,000 to $125,000 , not counting overtime.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carla Anderson" <carla_rayne at yahoo.com>
> To: "NP Info" <npinfo at nurse.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [NPInfo] i just got fired!
> 
> 
> Good points because this is such a wide spread group. I was thinking of
> something like the deacons fund at church which is used to pay utility
bills
> etc. when people come forward in need and ask. There is a small group that
> moderates this fund and they have to see specific bills or receipts too.
> But we could modify the concept rather than have a general fund (I was
> thinking about that too, like who would be responsible for withdrawing and
> accounting...).  But I still feel that many people contributing a little
> could help one person in a pinch. So I would be happy to send 50 or 100.00
> right now if I can get an address! I agree with you Dena, pride aside, if
> you have even 20 people contributing 30.00 that is 600.00 which would pay
> probably two or three months of utility bills  or send the checks directly
> to the companies. But if we dont have 20 people that can do that, I would
> also like the address of the utility companies, with the account number,
and
> the bill, and I will
> send in my contribution personally.  I am happy to do this off list as
well
> for Lynda. I know we are all having problems, but hers sounds in crisis
mode
> right now, because of her recent illness, and firing. Carla
> 
> Dena <galdena at sbcglobal.net> wrote:  I see way too many problems with a
> general fund. Who will be in charge of
> it, who can withdraw funds, who decides where and when the money gets
> distributed, who will be responsible for paying any taxes on it, etc.
> Personally, I prefer to pay a bill (or part of a bill) to someone I know
> really needs it and know where my money is going. Send me the bill (or a
> copy) and I will insert a personal check or money order paid to the
company.
> A lot less hassle that way and the money makes it to the intended
purpose..
> Dena Galler
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf
> Of Carla Anderson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:25 PM
> To: NP Info
> Subject: RE: [NPInfo] i just got fired!
> 
> I think there are some amazing people with great integrity on this list. I
> also think many people on this list have gone through some trials and
> understand what it is like, so we all want to help. I am serious Lynda,
put
> your address on here, or I will go to a bank. You said you have some small
> resources, but if it is not enough I will put in what I can, and if others
> want to they can too or whatever. Then maybe we can start this fund for
> emergencies,and that will be the beginning of it. The InfoList Emergency
> Fund or something like that. We can pick a national bank, and then people
> can put money in whenever, even the coffee money or change at the bottom
of
> the purse, and then when one of us needs it, we can utilize it. What do
you
> guys think? Carla/Oregon
> 
> David or Diane Dito
>  wrote: I second the idea of an ACC
> action fund and a list "need/catastrophe" fund
> are very good ideas. Would be happy to contribute to both, as well as to
> you, Lynn, if resources can't keep up. I, too, appreciate the honesty and
> integrity of those on the list who would jump in to help others here not
> only with emotional and spiritual support, but also financial! Wow! That
> says more about everyone here than anything else to date.
> Diane Dito
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf
> Of Lynda Woiblett
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:35 PM
> To: NP Info
> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] i just got fired!
> 
> I actually agree that a fund for 'catastrophic events' we might encounter
is
> not a bad idea....and I would also like to see an NP/PA promotion fund
> started for the ACC...members could vote y/n to a promotional plan - we
> could have fund raisers if there was a particular promotional idea we
wanted
> to do...(yea, it is not a new idea but I really never saw anything come
from
> the last attempt...I have seen much more from the ACC on a very skinny
> budget!)
> I went to the Unemp and they said I had to be released for full time
> employment in this state...I am hoping that it will be sooner rather than
> later...fortunately, in spite of never having had much in the way of
> financial teaching, I learned early on to spend less than we earn...it has
> worked for me so far, so I do have a few resources.....but must admit I
> would not have bought the new house if I had had a clue...
> I just heard from another x-employee that she fired her office coordinator
> yesterday. That leaves her with a part time biller, 2 MAs and a
> receptionist/scheduler....she fired the Office Manager a while ago.....I
my
> have to get my unemployment quick before she goes down in bankruptcy
> flames!!!!
> Lynn
> PS: In this area it is pretty common to be told that there may be random
> drug testing...I just never cared because I don't do drugs so I was never
> concerned.....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carla Anderson
> To: NP Info
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [NPInfo] i just got fired!
> 
> 
> I agree Lynda with Dena. Give me an address, and I will send a bit of
> money. We need to start a "list fund" just for these purposes, so we can
dip
> into it when someone needs help in emergency situations. I could get a
bank
> address and start one if people are interested.
> 
> Also, I dont know how it is in your state, but one of the questions
> they ask for unemployement is "are you actively seeking work? Are you
> physically able to work? If you were physically able to work part time (as
> you had gone back to work) you can truthfully answer yes to this question,
> and get your unemployment checks. In Oregon, this was only 445.00 a week,
> but it helped. So normally you do not need a "note" saying you are
> physically released. If you had not worked in two years and were not sure
if
> you could work that would be different, but you were already working. And
> regarding random drug tests what is that about? Keeping your job with that
> doctor? Did she tell you that, or did the unemployment office call and she
> told them that? If that is the case she wants to make it look like you are
> "refusing work" so she doesnt have to pay unemployement. She does not want
> to have to pay it, and that is what she will have to do is pay part of
it..
> I
> think if "random
> drug screens was not part of your original contract that you signed, she
> cannot add it now as a stipulation. And you did not even have a contract.
> Just say "yes" to everything at the unemployment office Lynda, or call
them
> on the phone. You will be telling the truth. Boy is she a piece of work.
And
> I agree coming to your home "after church" is horrible. Carla/Oregon
> 
> Dena > wrote:
> For goodness sakes, why did you have to do random drug tests... was that
> your boss' idea??
> Dena
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net
> [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf
> Of Lynda Woiblett
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:11 PM
> To: NP Info
> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] i just got fired!
> 
> Yes, I see people on it all the time...and there are my tax dollars paying
> for it...but when one of us needs it, well, that is another story. I think
> what really gets me is the fact that I have to agree to random drug
> testing
> to keep my job and that tax money can be diverted from my paycheck to
> those
> on welfare/etc that are doing drugs...how come they don't have to take
> random drug tests to qualify to get the money that I earned???? What was
> really funny was the lady helping me at the unemployment office...She just
> kept saying "She came to your house?" "I can't believe she came to your
> house". "Just came right into your house and told you this?"
> Lynn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Diana Galler
> To: NP Info
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] i just got fired!
> 
> 
> Geez--- so terribly sorry-- it totally sucks to fall through each and
> every crack! But, apparently, it happens much more than most people
> realize-- unfortunately. How can you be too old for Medicaid?? What about
> all the people in the country who are on both Medicaid and Medicare?
> 
> Tell you what-- send me a utility bill and I'll pay it for you. If
> everyone on this list pays one bill a month for you, you could be okay for
> a
> long time!! LOL
> Dena
> 
> Lynda Woiblett > wrote:
> I agree with both of you...I do not want that job back...(it ties with 1
> other job as being the worst I have ever had..I quit that one) but I do
> not
> want this to reflect badly on me when I apply for other positions. I
> understand that what she did was TACKY, as well as morally, ethically, and
> professionally WRONG, but I am unsure if it is Legally Wrong. I have calls
> into 2 employment attorneys now to try to get an answer to this question.
> I
> do not qualify for unemployment because I have not been released medically
> to work full time. I can not get COBRA as you have to have 20 or more
> employees to require this. I do not qualify for disability because in
> Virginia you must be 100% disabled to qualify for anything. I am too old
> for
> medicaid and too young for social security. I am not sure how
> understanding
> the power company and mortgage company are going to be when I run out of
> $$.
> I will start sending out CV's and pounding the pavement but for today, I
> have done all I can
> Lynn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: SusanAPR at aol.com
> To: npinfo at nurse.net
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] i just got fired!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/5/2007 9:44:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> galdena at sbcglobal.net writes:
> 
> She needs to check with HER state-- and
> an attorney if she wants to fight this firing. Although, again, I think
> Lynda needs to analyze what her goals are here-- getting her job back,
> financial compensation, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Agreed, Dena.
> Susan
> 
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