[NPInfo] Laid off versus Fired

[Dena]

YEAH!! Then in retrospect, I was NEVER EVER fired-- I have always been laid
off. So I can truthfully answer "No" to that question on the application
that asks "Have you ever been fired from a job?"  All these years I've been
answering "yes". Apparently it never stood in the way of me getting a job
anyway once I explained the circumstances of my dismissals. <G>
Dena Galler

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Of David Mittman
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [NPInfo] Laid off versus Fired

As an employer, if someone told me they were laid off, I always thought it
was for economic reasons that were beyond the person's control. That their
performance was good but the business was downsizing, moving, shipping jobs
to India, etc. If you were fired, something you did was the cause. You could
be inept, morally deficient, too strange for other people, or your boss was
a jerk and gave us a prize!
The mysterious one was "let go".
Dave
On 11/7/07 6:58 PM, "Christine  Smith" <chrisbsmith at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Dena - the difference is I was "fired" from my pot club job but I was
> actually "laid off" from my Internal Medicine job. Pot Doc hated me
because
> I wanted to educate pot smokers and slowed him down making all that money.
I
> do not tell employers about Pot Doc. because he would not say anything
nice
> about me since 1) he fired me and 2) I took him to court.  Internal
Medicine
> office wanted me gone because the office manager hated me but they couched
> it nicely with "this is a financial decision" and have always given me
> stellar references since I left. I assume Lyndas employer will say nice
> things about her and ultimately would like to see her succeed. The
employers
> timing was poor but given half of her office is now terminated it appears
> the writing was on the wall and there is no grounds for wrongful
> termination.
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>> From Wikipedia.org
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> To be fired, as opposed to being laid off, is generally thought of to be
> the employee's fault, and therefore is considered in most cases to be
> dishonorable and a sign of failure. Often, it may hinder the now
> job-seeker's chances of finding new employment, particularly if he/she has
> been fired from earlier jobs. Job seekers will often not mention jobs that
> they were fired from on their resumes.
> 
> Layoff is the termination of employment
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_of_employment>  of an employee
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee>  or (more commonly) a group of
> employees for business <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business>  reasons,
> such as the decision that certain positions are no longer necessary.
> Originally the term "layoff" referred specifically to a temporary
> interruption in work, as when factory work cyclically falls off. However,
> the term has long been applied also to the permanent elimination of
> positions as a cost-cutting measure (or for other reasons).
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> Chris-- how do you come to the conclusion that Lynn was "laid off" and not
> "fired"? To me the distinction lies in whether the employer plans to take
> you back again when the need arises. Did I miss that part in Lynn's post?
> Was that stipulated?
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> Dena
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