[NPInfo] Forbes-DNP

[Smith, Melissa]

As a NP in a DNP program now, I was quite appalled by this article, thanks for putting it on list to see.  Excuse me, when I complete this program I will still be Melissa to my patients but hopefully smarter in my area of interest, dermatology.  This kind of press will stir up the doc group once again.  Already as a NP I take care of those with primary care issues and refer those who are above my practice level, I don't expect that to change.  I just want to treat those with skin problems better and become more aware of who to refer.  There is a 3 month wait for dermatologists in my area and so if I can treat a problem it will save time and money for the patients.  Am I gonna be as smart as the dermatologist, heck no.  Will I still refer, heck yeah.  I teach and see the DNP as the terminal degree to put me on the same playing field as those I work with.
Only nurses can continually shoot themselves in the foot with asinine statements.
Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf Of David Mittman
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:10 AM
To: NPinfo
Subject: [NPInfo] Forbes-DNP


Rose: So do I. Two of us agree with Calif NP.
I can't believe the NP profession lets someone say these things. OK, I know
the next question, How does one not allow her? By telling their state and
national orgs including the ACC that this is unacceptable.
I thought of what I would think if a PA said this (much of it is way too
militant for us)
but the part that announces there now are elite PAs who make me look
poorly trained, would be something I would be quite pissed about. And to say
their clinical experience equals that of a physician because they took the
DNP, is to me a rallying cry for a battle I think the regular NP does not
want at this point. I could be wrong..........
Dave

On 11/28/07 11:46 AM, "Rose Moran-Kelly" <rosemorankelly at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh dear!!  Now it has happened.....I agree with califnp (who I usually
> delete...sorry)
> rose
> 
> On 11/28/07, Calif NP <np at c-zone.net> wrote:
>> This mind-set by the BSN'ers (now DNP'ers ?  the Neocons of nursing?) will
>> certainly serve to add a new robust flavor to the MDs terms of 'mid-level',
>> 'physician extender',  and of course 'nurse'.   This is very unproductive,
>> flies in the face of good sense, and seems driven by those self-appointed
>> education mavens who have a vested interest in the post-graduate degree
>> generating money machines.  The AMA just has to love these people!!!   This
>> sort of egocentric thought process and empire builder propaganda very
>> plainly is indicating that NP education, experience, in fact - the very
>> concept of NPs, is INADEQUATE in virtually every respect.  So, how is this
>> sort of nonsense being spread throughout the health industry helpful?
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Mittman" <dmittman at comcast.net>
>> To: "ACC Listserv" <ACC-Circle at listserve.com>; "NPinfo" <NPinfo at nurse.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:14 AM
>> Subject: [NPInfo] Forbes-DNP-not written by an NP
>> 
>> 
>> This article will be tacked up on every doctor¹s lounge billboard. I am not
>> sure this needed to be said in the way it was said. Am not even sure 50% of
>> the NPs in the country would say those words. And what if you don¹t have a
>> d
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