[NPInfo] Forbes-DNP

Diana Galler galdena at sbcglobal.net
Wed Nov 28 16:31:31 PST 2007


Hanging out with us after all these years has finally rubbed off on him and made him smarter and wiser!! <G>
  Dena Galler

stephanie2u at optonline.net wrote:
  THREE of us agree with him/her. I sure like what s/he says when s/he has the same opinion I do : )

----- Original Message -----
From: David Mittman 
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:19 pm
Subject: [NPInfo] Forbes-DNP
To: NPinfo 

> 
> Rose: So do I. Two of us agree with Calif NP.
> I can't believe the NP profession lets someone say these things. 
> OK, I know
> the next question, How does one not allow her? By telling their 
> state and
> national orgs including the ACC that this is unacceptable.
> I thought of what I would think if a PA said this (much of it is 
> way too
> militant for us)
> but the part that announces there now are elite PAs who make me look
> poorly trained, would be something I would be quite pissed 
> about. And to say
> their clinical experience equals that of a physician because 
> they took the
> DNP, is to me a rallying cry for a battle I think the regular NP 
> does not
> want at this point. I could be wrong..........
> Dave
> 
> On 11/28/07 11:46 AM, "Rose Moran-Kelly" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Oh dear!! Now it has happened.....I agree with califnp (who I 
> usually> delete...sorry)
> > rose
> > 
> > On 11/28/07, Calif NP wrote:
> >> This mind-set by the BSN'ers (now DNP'ers ? the Neocons of 
> nursing?) will
> >> certainly serve to add a new robust flavor to the MDs terms 
> of 'mid-level',
> >> 'physician extender', and of course 'nurse'. This is very 
> unproductive,>> flies in the face of good sense, and seems 
> driven by those self-appointed
> >> education mavens who have a vested interest in the post-
> graduate degree
> >> generating money machines. The AMA just has to love these 
> people!!! This
> >> sort of egocentric thought process and empire builder 
> propaganda very
> >> plainly is indicating that NP education, experience, in fact -
> the very
> >> concept of NPs, is INADEQUATE in virtually every respect. 
> So, how is this
> >> sort of nonsense being spread throughout the health industry 
> helpful?>> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Mittman" 
> >> To: "ACC Listserv" ; "NPinfo" 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:14 AM
> >> Subject: [NPInfo] Forbes-DNP-not written by an NP
> >> 
> >> 
> >> This article will be tacked up on every doctor¹s lounge 
> billboard. I am not
> >> sure this needed to be said in the way it was said. Am not 
> even sure 50% of
> >> the NPs in the country would say those words. And what if you 
> don¹t have a
> >> d
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