[NPInfo] off topic-home invasion

Mon Sep 17 20:42:32 PDT 2007

Dear D and Gina--
Do you sleep with your loaded weapons to protect yourselves from each
other???  Certainly sheds a new light on reasons for never going to bed
angry, doesn't it? LOL   Exactly who are you afraid of... and better
question-- WHY??? 
As a former Captain in the Army Reserves, I couldn't fire a weapon if my
life (or anyone else's for that matter) depended on it. Never did hit a
target when we had to qualify. A gun in MY hands would probably be more
detrimental to me than one in the hands of an intruder. 
Dena Galler

-----Original Message-----
From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf
Of Calif NP
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:02 PM
To: NP Info
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] off topic-home invasion

Oh, by the way....
We, CalifNP et al, are a home of 'Veterans' (both of us are Army & 'the
male' in the house- Law Enforcement prior/Corrections & Army vet.) & sleep
with two (2) Model 1911A's each with 10 round extended magazines under our
bed, a Kel-Lite by the bed (& multiple other firearms in a ready armed
condition) as well as exercising the CA CCW (concealed weapon carry
permit) - which may all sound more than a little PTSD/paranoid/wacko/etc.
but..... So, neither of us has any qualms about sending any bad guy(s) to
meet his maker earlier than he wishes if the circumstance warrants it.  All
I meant to say is that if you are not ready to use a
handgun/shotgun/whatever in a decisive and deliberately lethal manner,
knowing what & why you are taking this violent action which may end the life
of another person (the 'critter' in this instance) then you may be safer
with a home without loaded firearms.  Killing another deliberately, even if
they may deserve it, and even if you literally have no choice is not
something to be cavalier about, nor is it something that any of us would do
without a great deal of forethought & likely remorse later even if 100%
justified.
Happy Hunting (P.S. - guns are for shooting people, not defenseless animals)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "doc" <funnyfarm10 at verizon.net>
To: "NP Info" <npinfo at nurse.net>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] off topic-home invasion

> Here in Texas (especially rural areas) we all have guns for
> protection---also VERY large dogs!
> Pat M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shelby Havens" <shelbyhavens at hotmail.com>
> To: "NP Info" <npinfo at nurse.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [NPInfo] off topic-home invasion
> I must respectively disagree with CalifNP/Attorney. If you are a
homeowner,
> get a gun. Get a sawed-off shotgun if nothing else. Point it at any
intruder
> who enters your house illegally and comes towards you, and be prepared to
> pull the trigger. That's called self-defense. Unless you value the
> intruder's life more than your own, pull the trigger. Shooting someone in
> the back as they run across your lawn to get away is another story. Big
> problem there.
>
> The nurse anesthetist could have been raped, tortured, beaten, and killed.
> The situation could have turned out a LOT worse. She was very, very lucky.
>
> That old "don't get a gun because it may get used against you" line is
> something that men used to tell women in the pre-feminism era. Everybody
> should have a gun now, and should know how to use it. Not to be able to
> protect yourself is foolish.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Shelby Havens, ARNP > From: np at c-zone.net> To: npinfo at nurse.net> Subject:
> Re: [NPInfo] off topic-home invasion> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007
10:40:25 -0700>
>  > "....open the drawer to get my desert eagle 757...." (757 ??? what?)>
> Well, that would be the ultimate anesthetic wouldn't it! You could hit
them>
> over the head with it for the 'less than lethal option' if they get close>
> enough (for that special Nursing touch? ..... me thinks that Nurse
Dorothea>
> Orem would not approve of such behavior or even such thoughts).> Here's a
> link for a little insight on what she might suggest. Her thought> process
> does not suggest that she was a NRA enthusiast:>
>
www.nipissingu.ca/faculty/arohap/aphome/NURS3006/Resources/DorotheaOremTheor
>
> y.ppt -> > Any handgun with which the owner is not intimately and expertly
> familiar is> more likely to arm a previously unarmed intruder than to
serve
> any useful> purpose for the owner. Then, of course there is going to be
that
> problem> with shooting another living person in the face/chest as he runs
> toward you.> And, if you come home to discover that the burglar already
has
> YOUR handgun> in his hands what are you going to do then? Hmmm.> > In
> Northern CA we recommend that everyone put a small sign on their front>
> door/window which says in bold lettering "No Salesmen, No Proselytizing,
No>
> Canvassers, No Trespassers - Do Not Ring & Do Not Knock on this Door".>
> There are just too many criminals out surveying prospects for burglaries
or>
> worse, especially in broad daylight!> > ----- Original Message ----- >
From:
> <Margienp at aol.com>> To: <npinfo at nurse.net>> Sent: Monday, September 17,
2007
> 4:46 AM> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] off topic-home invasion> > > >> > How
awful!>
>  >> > In a message dated 9/16/2007 9:24:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,> >
> nurse_healer at yahoo.com writes:> >> > A nurse anesthetist colleague of mine
> who lives in Calif just experienced> a> > home invasion, and here is her
> story to me. We have had some car breakins> a> > few weeks ago, now I am
> more vigilent to strangers, but it is so easy to> let> > your guard down.
> paula> >> > I wanted you to know-- how last week started out for me.> > I
> came home from work and parked in the driveway. I had electronically> >
> opened the garage door to get into the house, but as I was walking I saw>
> someone> > in my peripheral vision. I looked and didn't know the person,
but
> no big> deal.> > I closed the door, no sooner put my purse down when there
> was someone> > knocking on the door.. strange, because I have a doorbell
and
> a> knocker, but this> > was a hand knock. Like a jackass, even though I
had
> just seen a stranger> I> > answered the door. It was a young lady that
told
> me she was not asking> for> > donations, but could I just listen for a few
> minutes. Before I could> answer,> > she said do you believe people can
> change and I said of course. She told> me> > she was changing her life and
> was working door to door to have people> write a> > brief sentence related
> to her demeanor. THEN she also said she would> > appreciate if I would buy
> some magazines.> > Ok- so at this point, I think-- ok, I can rid of her
> quick if I just buy> a> > subscription. My husband just asked me if I
> renewed his GQ, so I told> her> > ok-- I have to do this quick as I just
> walked in the door and I have an> > appointment to make. I gave her the
> check and off she went.> > The first thing I do when I get home from work
is
> take off my scrubs if I> > didn't bother to change at the hosptial. I
> figured, I would go out and> take a> > swim for exercise because it was
hot.
> The whole back of my house is> glass.> > I have a very private yard with a
> high fence and high hedges that border> the> > street aspect of the
fence.>
>  > As I was putting on my swimsuit.... I noticed movement in the yard,
but> >
> didn't see anything. The dogs and I went out to the pool. They sit or>
run>
>  > around the pool while I swim. They bark at squirrels in the yard, so>
> while I am> > swimming I didn't pay attention. They were barking so much
> that I looked> up> > and they were running towards the bedroom french
doors
> which I had left> > open.... I said oh chit-- maybe a squirrel or bird got
> in. What was> weird was> > they stopped and were barking their something
is
> wrong bark.> > I got out of the pool, wrapped the towel around me and the
> dogs ran to me> > and followed me in. I went into the bathroom and was
> stripping off the> suit.> > I was bending over and adjusting a towel
around
> my hair, when I looked up> > there was a man staring at me as I looked in
> the mirror.> > I quickly turned around and he said, we can do this the
soft
> and easy or> we> > can do it hard and rough just like Ike and Tina. He
said
> I ain't gonna> hurt> > you, but you rich folks gotta share the wealth, ya
> dig?> > He said, there is a van outside and I want you to open the door
and
> let> my> > boys in. You are gonna then sit down and shut the F up. You
will
> talk> only> > when I give you permission to do so, and you first better
shut
> these g> G-d> > dogs up otherwise I am going to shoot them.... and he took
a
> gun out of> his> > waste band.> > Three men and the girl came in the house
> and they said we were all going> to> > take inventory and proceed with a
> shopping spree. First, two took me to> the> > closets while two stayed and
> watch the front of the house. They wanted> > designer clothes, they said
> they knew my husband had nice suits as they> had been> > watching our
coming
> and goings for weeks. Paul (hubby) is not working as> he> > was laid off,
> but he goes to job interviews. They took most of his> suits,> > shoes and
> other clothes. They did the same with my closet. They put> them in> >
these
> rolling bins... so if the neighbors saw it would look like> construction>
>
> or maybe homecleaning service.> > I have a panic button near the bed. No
one
> knows what it is, for exactly> > this type of reason. It brings my local
> police in a few minutes. I was> hoping> > I could either get there or two
> the office to open the draw to get my> desert> > eagle 757> > So they were
> looking in the drawers, throwing stuff around, taking> paintings> > off
the
> wall looking for a safe,. etc. When they were looking for> jewelry,> >
they
> found the four four foot tall box that has all the little drawers in> it>
>
> and he told me to sit on the bed and not move. As his back was> turned> >
> and he was squatting down throwing stuff into a bag, I slowly reached>
back
> and> > pushed the panic button.> > The cops came and when he heard the
> ruckus at the other end of the house> and> > cops were surrounding the
> house. He grabbed me by the hair, dragged me> and> > pushed me through a
> plate glass floor to ceiling window and he took off> > through the back
> yard, jumoed the fence and sprinted.> > I am ok, just rattled..... sore,
> bruised a few cuts and a medial meniscal> > tear and high blood pressure.>
>
> What a mess!> >> >> >> >> > Paula J. Sumner RN, MSN, HTP, CHt> > Healing
> Touch, Hypnotherapy, Emotional Freedom Technique, Reiki-2> > 3500 Westgate
> Dr., Suite 504-G> > Durham, NC 27707 (now Carborro too.)> > 919-490-4656,
> 8#> >> > http://paulajsumner.byregion.net Referral ID#10102918> >> >
> http://www.justanswer.com/home.asp?r=HolisticNurse&bn=2> >> >
> http://www.letstalkcounseling.com/sites/paulasumner> >>
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