[NPInfo]: Faculty responsibility & preceptors

Thu Apr 3 16:53:22 PDT 2008

Do you not think we have contacted the school?
The university does not care they are receiving their money ans also free, preceptors, I preceptored at different university and we at least were awarded a free gym membership.

Personally I am growing weary of the DNP, debate, I am very happy for NP's that want to go back to school. I do not want to at my age.I feel sometimes that if we do not go for our DNP, we are less of a NP.
I have been an NP for 20 years and fought many for the,NP's role. I?should not be made to feel that something is wrong with me because I am making a lifestyle choice.
Lets see I am in my 50's and I should go to a school and pay,? at least 10000 dollars a year plus work my ass off to get a degree that will do what for me?
I paid my dues.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sue Wiers <sgwiers at hotmail.com>
To: NP Info <npinfo at nurse.net>
Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 7:42 pm
Subject: RE: [NPInfo]: Faculty responsibility & preceptors

I agree with Nancy.  I precept routinely for Oakland University students in 
Rochester, Michigan.  I have developed a reciprocal relationship with Oakland 
University (which is not my alma mater) over the years and am on their NP 
Committee as 'adjunct faculty' (not paid, but looks ok on the resume and gives 
me contact with academia).  This university is absolutely concerned with the 
best interests of their students and in recognizing and supporting their 
preceptors.  Faculty make routine visits to the sites twice a semester, ask for 
written evaluations of the students, invite preceptors to appropriate events, 
and, as in my case, involvement with the program.  I have always felt 
appreciated and never abused.  If one is experiencing such negative things, I 
recommend contacting the university and/or discontinuing the relationship.

As for the missing clinical components in practice- I wish that I felt competent 
in all the areas that Marilyn mentioned.  I have attended seminars, skills 
workshops, conference workshops, purchased and reviewed numerous educational 
materials on all of the mentioned areas of deficiency.  Despite these efforts, I 
keep wondering how it is all second nature to my collaborating doc and a 
challenge to me.  Bridging that gap is where I what I would hope a DNP would 
achieve - I don't think that I am hearing that is the case.  

Sue Wiers

> From: Nbalkon at aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:59:09 -0400> Subject: Re: 
[NPInfo]: Faculty responsibility & preceptors> To: npinfo at nurse.net> > > > In a 
message dated 4/3/2008 12:35:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Margienp at aol.com 
writes:> > There seems to be issues in students obtaining preceptors and this is 
the > schools obligation. If the MS program can not arrange for decent 
preceptors > then > there needs to be less students admitted to the programs.> 
Many times the preceptors are abused.> I have been a preceptor and never had the 
university make any contact with > me.> > > Nance respons: Sigh... this 
disheartens me if it's occurring... Preceptors, > please do contact the 
department chair in schools where your preceptees come > from... It's 
unacceptable to have, what I consider, students "dumped" on > preceptors.> > 
Preceptors... you do have rights... one of them is to work along with > faculty 
of record whose responsibility it is to be in contact with you at the > 
beginning of the semester and prn throughout in order to guide the student's > 
education. Also, if a student is doing poorly, notify faculty who must certainly 
> work with you to sort out what the issues are, counsel the student with you, > 
etc etc. Yes, sometimes students are even pulled out of clinical...> > Do you 
know? The hours that you put in precepting apply towar > re-certification? If 
you haven't received a letter from the school verifying you've > precepted and 
for how many hours please make request. Also review recert criteria > for 
credentialing body to see how hours are applied.> > I've worn both hats during 
my career... am totally sensitive to the plight > of the preceptor and what can 
be termed preceptor abuse. I advocate for you. > You're not powerless.> > > 
Nancy Balkon, PhD, ANP-C, APRN-CS, NPP> Southern New York State Representative 
-- AANP> Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University School of Nursing> 
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