[NPInfo] CACC and AACN-READ BETWEEN THE LINES

[Erich Widemark]

When a change like this is made regarding the profession, I think we fail to look at what it will mean to future generations, and we focus way too much on how it affects us.  I have always believed the DNP to be a good step for the profession.  In doing so we need to think 20 years in the future after I retire, how will this help those professionals of the next generation.  How will it help us in getting to the 'table' to be more involved in making the healthcare decisions for the country and less relegated to follow what the physicians cram down our throats.

I don't think revamping NP education and creating a program that allows us to advance to a higher educational level is ever going to hurt this profession.  Many had the same gripes when we made minimum level of practice an MSN.  The only difference was that there were much less of us at that time.

I guess I am just tired of hearing the selfish reasons why we shouldn't be DNPs, and I want to hear more of the selfless reasons why we should be DNPs.  It isn't about us, it is about the next generation.  Any transition is difficult, but once the 4 years DNP programs are graduating new NPs, no one will think twice about it.

To me the action by the CACC and the Board of Medical Examiners is one last exasperated attempt to limit the DNPs.  But as usual I think that those that take the test will fly by it, and my hope our next step should be the ability to apply for residency programs and fellowships along with the other doctors, thus solidifying ourselves firmly in the healthcare world (I am sure I'll get some comment on this one!!)

Erich

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Subject: Re: [NPInfo] CACC and AACN-READ BETWEEN THE LINES

There is a line that has been drawn, but it is not between the NPs and 
Physicians, it is between the NPs that only do clinical,and the "Ivory 
Tower" crowd. The fight is becoming more prominent and the gap seems to 
be widening and there is no communication between those that support and 
those that do not. NPs, it appears, as a whole, that are not in favor of 
these new guidelines and were not addressed as either individuals or a 
group, are going to get stuck with guidelines, tests, etc., that once in 
place will not be reversed.

Maybe, this will also be used to divide the NP field into levels of 
those that have the DNP, and those that have been practicing and are not 
going to spend the money to go back to school, and take another board 
exam. It is being shoved down our throats, and those of us that did not 
know about this, will eventually have to meet these new guidelines, or 
leave the profession. Like I have said many times, lets just thank the 
few that are making policy for the many. I have not heard, but do we 
have to bow or curtsy to these new "leaders", or do we go back to the 
days when nurses gave up their seats when a "doctor" was present? Marty

np at c-zone.net wrote:
> With the proliferation of these DNP & similar programs there will be,
> after a few years, NO choice at all- it will become a done deal & NPs as
> now exist will cease to exist as a practical matter. Doctors fear their
> erosion of power & have been fighting to retain turf and revenue sources
> for many years. It is going to only get worse. Academics who colloborate
> with the medical establishment/political power base only make this worse,
> and are contributing to the demise of the NP concept as a viable practice
> model.
> It is too bad that there is no equivalent of the National Rifle
> Association for NPs to fight degree inflation, national certification,
> etc. they way the NRA fights gun control!  The NRA does not 'go along to
> get along', it draws a line, fanatically hangs tough on its core values,
> and actively fights anyone who does not support their positions.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] CACC and AACN-READ BETWEEN THE LINES
> Date: Sun, April 6, 2008 13:40
> From: Nbalkon at aol.com
>
>> In a message dated 4/6/2008 11:11:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> Margienp at aol.com writes:
>>
>> Amen  also!
>> NP for 20 years. I have no intention of that torture  again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> NANCE WRITES:  You need not be tortured again... Only by  choice!   :-)
>>
>> Nancy Balkon, PhD, ANP-C, APRN-CS, NPP
>> Southern New York State  Representative -- AANP
>> Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University  School of Nursing
>>
>>
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