[NPInfo] CACC and AACN-READ BETWEEN THE LINES

Mon Apr 7 05:56:45 PDT 2008

Hello,
*Who* is telling you that you must obtain your DNP?

Margienp at aol.com wrote:
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>  
>
> Hello.
> Respectfully, I am not being selfish , I did not tell anyone not go obtain  a 
> DNP. I think all of us want the best for the profession.At 52 ,with , this  
> economy do you really think that I want to be in debt , for 30.000$. It will 
> not  increase my salary.
> Please ,just do not "Tell " me., that I MUST obtain my DNP!
> I obtained my MSN, 20 years, ago , when few where obtaining their  masters.
> Margie
> In a message dated 4/7/2008 2:11:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> ewidemark at earthlink.net writes:
>
> When a  change like this is made regarding the profession, I think we fail to 
> look at  what it will mean to future generations, and we focus way too much 
> on how it  affects us.  I have always believed the DNP to be a good step for 
> the  profession.  In doing so we need to think 20 years in the future after I  
> retire, how will this help those professionals of the next generation.   How 
> will it help us in getting to the 'table' to be more involved in making  the 
> healthcare decisions for the country and less relegated to follow what the  
> physicians cram down our throats.
>
> I don't think revamping NP education  and creating a program that allows us 
> to advance to a higher educational level  is ever going to hurt this 
> profession.  Many had the same gripes when we  made minimum level of practice an MSN.  
> The only difference was that  there were much less of us at that time.
>
> I guess I am just tired of  hearing the selfish reasons why we shouldn't be 
> DNPs, and I want to hear more  of the selfless reasons why we should be DNPs.  
> It isn't about us, it is  about the next generation.  Any transition is 
> difficult, but once the 4  years DNP programs are graduating new NPs, no one will 
> think twice about  it.
>
> To me the action by the CACC and the Board of Medical Examiners is  one last 
> exasperated attempt to limit the DNPs.  But as usual I think  that those that 
> take the test will fly by it, and my hope our next step should  be the ability 
> to apply for residency programs and fellowships along with the  other 
> doctors, thus solidifying ourselves firmly in the healthcare world (I am  sure I'll 
> get some comment on this one!!)
>
> Erich
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net  [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf 
> Of mfnp at cox.net
> Sent: Sunday,  April 06, 2008 6:14 PM
> To: npinfo at nurse.net
> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] CACC  and AACN-READ BETWEEN THE LINES
>
> There is a line that has been drawn,  but it is not between the NPs and 
> Physicians, it is between the NPs that  only do clinical,and the "Ivory 
> Tower" crowd. The fight is becoming more  prominent and the gap seems to 
> be widening and there is no communication  between those that support and 
> those that do not. NPs, it appears, as a  whole, that are not in favor of 
> these new guidelines and were not  addressed as either individuals or a 
> group, are going to get stuck with  guidelines, tests, etc., that once in 
> place will not be  reversed.
>
> Maybe, this will also be used to divide the NP field into  levels of 
> those that have the DNP, and those that have been practicing and  are not 
> going to spend the money to go back to school, and take another  board 
> exam. It is being shoved down our throats, and those of us that did  not 
> know about this, will eventually have to meet these new guidelines, or  
> leave the profession. Like I have said many times, lets just thank the  
> few that are making policy for the many. I have not heard, but do we  
> have to bow or curtsy to these new "leaders", or do we go back to the  
> days when nurses gave up their seats when a "doctor" was present?  Marty
>
> np at c-zone.net wrote:
>   
>> With the proliferation of these DNP  & similar programs there will be,
>> after a few years, NO choice at  all- it will become a done deal & NPs as
>> now exist will cease to  exist as a practical matter. Doctors fear their
>> erosion of power &  have been fighting to retain turf and revenue sources
>> for many years.  It is going to only get worse. Academics who colloborate
>> with the  medical establishment/political power base only make this worse,
>> and  are contributing to the demise of the NP concept as a viable practice
>>  model.
>> It is too bad that there is no equivalent of the National  Rifle
>> Association for NPs to fight degree inflation, national  certification,
>> etc. they way the NRA fights gun control!  The NRA  does not 'go along to
>> get along', it draws a line, fanatically hangs  tough on its core values,
>> and actively fights anyone who does not  support their positions.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message  -----
>> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] CACC and AACN-READ BETWEEN THE  LINES
>> Date: Sun, April 6, 2008 13:40
>> From:  Nbalkon at aol.com
>>
>>     
>>> In a message dated 4/6/2008 11:11:48 AM  Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> Margienp at aol.com  writes:
>>>
>>> Amen  also!
>>> NP for 20 years.  I have no intention of that torture   again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  NANCE WRITES:  You need not be tortured again... Only by   choice!   :-)
>>>
>>> Nancy Balkon, PhD, ANP-C,  APRN-CS, NPP
>>> Southern New York State  Representative --  AANP
>>> Clinical Associate Professor, Stony Brook University   School of Nursing
>>>
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