[NPInfo] "...line that has been drawn, but it's not between the NPs & Phy...

Mon Apr 7 11:30:26 PDT 2008

I think this is what I was speaking of.
In a message dated 4/6/2008 11:25:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
galdena at sbcglobal.net writes:

So how  do we go about getting everyone to stand behind "JUST SAY NO" to this
new  certification exam?? Already, one person on this listserve has said  they
plan to take it. If a large number of DNPs do fall for this gimmick,  I
predict it WILL become required in the future. And, if they do take  the
exam, will we lose jobs to these newly certified DNPs if we DON'T have  this
certification? 
Dena Galler

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Subject: Re:  [NPInfo] "...line that has been drawn,but it's not between the
NPs &  Phy...

Marty,
I have been blasted before on this list serv for  speaking out  in support of

the DNP, but I will respond again to  try to answer your question.  I am not 
part of any academic group,  but I do support the move to DNP as entry  to 
practice for ARNPs. I  do have a DNP degree, but I took the long route,
starting out 
as a LPN,  then ADN, BSN, MSN and finally DNP. At each step along  the way I  
learned. (Although, I only obtained my BSN because I thought it was   going
to 
be required for entry into practice. As an ADN, I  thought,  wrongly, I knew
all 
that I needed to know as a nurse.)  Besides the  educational value of my 
degree, it has brought me  additional respect from other  professionals. In
my 
legislative  work, having the title "doctor" lends more  weight to what I
have to  
say. Like it or not, when I use the title, people are  more willing  to
listen to 
me. In order to gain full reimbursement for what we  do  and to be accepted
as 
a full partner in health care, and not  an underling or  someone to be 
supervised, we need to have equal  status with other health care  providers.

The move to the DNP must  not disenfranchise any currently  practicing
masters 
prepared  ARNPs. I believe strongly that MSN prepared ARNPs  are excellent  
health care providers.

I do not support the CACC exam for DNP  graduates. ARNPs do not  need to 
compare themselves to physicians and  we do not need to pass a test  written
by/for 
physicians. The  measure of quality is not to be like a physician.  The
measure 
of  quality for ARNPs is to be the best of nursing and nursing   must
determine 
the measure. The current certification exams written by  nursing  
organizations, should stand as the basis for certification  whether the
degree is  MSN or 
DNP. This new exam only acts as a  divider for our profession. Heaven  knows,

there is enough  divisiveness in nursing without throwing up something   else!

Beth Partin

In a message dated 4/6/2008 9:22:04  P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mfnp at cox.net 
writes:

Nancy,   From the responses you, and I would think many in NY, would be  
better  informed than most. But, from the responses, it appears the  
majority of  NPs were caught totally unaware. Speaking for myself, I  have 
no intention  of obtaining another degree, nor do I believe it  will make 
me any better  or worse, as a practitioner. I also do not  want to spend 
the money, nor  sit for another exam, especially one  that is made to meet 
the level of one  aspect of a physician's  education. as was stated in the 
article. The  second that physicians  have input into our education and 
qualifications,  only erodes our  own profession, and ability to make 
decisions on a nursing  level,  not in comparison, or competition with 
physicians.

One thing   that I have never understood is why these additional exams and  
educational  steps are primarily supported by those that are in, or a  
part of,  academics, and I would be open if anyone could neutrally  
explain this to  me and the   group?
Marty
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