[NPInfo] Oh oh.

Mon Apr 21 12:59:06 PDT 2008

If I'm not mistaken, I think it was Marty who brought up the lawsuits.
  Dena

nursinglaw at aol.com wrote:
  I want more information on the nurses who have been sued and the basis of the lawsuits given the nps use of the guidelines or algorhythms or protocols.

Winifred Carson-Smith, Esq.
CarsonCompany, LLC
www.CarsonCo.net 
nursinglaw at aol.com
202-232-5193
202-232-5194(fax)

-----Original Message-----
From: debcfnp at aol.com
To: npinfo at nurse.net
Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] Oh oh.

Somehow I got caught in the middle of this thread with my comments about an NP 
running a retail clinic versus someone with a business background.? I did not 
comment on any NPs being sued.? I am not sure what "nurses" you are referring 
to.? Nps who are reportedly being sued?? Or other NPs who lost their jobs when 
the retail clinic closed.
Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: nursinglaw at aol.com
To: npinfo at nurse.net
Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] Oh oh.

Debbie,

Please ask the nurses, if they are comfortable to contact me directly.? I am 
conducting a conference in the spring of next year (March 28-30, 2009)?on 
business issues relatd to?advanced nursing ?practice and I am trying to develop 
a comprehensive curriculum on the business issues.? Carolyn Buppert and Diane 
Smith, an NP who has franchised her business have agreed to speak.? Other 
corporate types, lawyers and accountants have agreed to present also.? And, I 
have invited other NPs and CNSs at I know to come and speak.? In short, I want 
us to cover the most current issues/topics on the entrepreneural front.?? So, if 

they would contact me and share enough that we could develop a presentation on 
the issues, I would appreciate it.? We can maintain their confidentiality.

Thanks,

Winifred Carson-Smith, Esq.
CarsonCompany, LLC
www.CarsonCo.net 
nursinglaw at aol.com
202-232-5193
202-232-5194(fax)

-----Original Message-----
From: debcfnp at aol.com
To: npinfo at nurse.net
Sent: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] Oh oh.

I guess you will have to ask Marty this one.? I don't know about the nurse 
practitioners who are being sued.
Deb

While I believe these facilities can have an excellent role for the public and 
us as providers, they keep allowing "business" to dictate over quality care. I 
know there are several NPs that are being sued for sticking to the "corporate 
policies", and that may also have a backlash effect on us. These clinics are 
growing too rapidly, and many, without any real though except the dollar sign. 
As professionals, we need to be careful or it will only support those physicians 

that are complaining already. Marty?

-----Original Message-----
From: debcfnp at aol.com
To: npinfo at nurse.net
Sent: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] Oh oh.

Actually, my scenario is the exact opposite.? The company I worked for was 
started by an NP, a very well known NP.? However, she did not have an astute 
business sense and as a result some poor decisions were made.? While it is 
healthcare, it is also a business and it truly takes a combination of both 
skills in order for it to be successful.? We are an example of the other side of 

the coin.
Deb

-----Original Message-----
From: mfnp at cox.net
To: npinfo at nurse.net
Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] Oh oh.

This is not surprising considering that a large number of these companies are 
started by "business people" who see dollars and have little or no interest in 
what they are portraying their goals to be, e.g., available and affordable 
health care. This was one of the reasons I questioned the rapid growth from 
early on. In at least 2 companies, one owned and managed by not one person who 
had any health care experience, they came up with their business plan after 
visiting multiple similar clinics and stealing what they could, but, they forgot 

that children needed liquids, and they did not have one on their mandated 
formulary.?
?
Another company, insisted that their "template" be used on every patient, which 
was not composed by anyone with a health care background. If you followed their 
template, (and you were expected to use the entire program), you would always 
come up with a level 5 visit.?
?
While I believe these facilities can have an excellent role for the public and 
us as providers, they keep allowing "business" to dictate over quality care. I 
know there are several NPs that are being sued for sticking to the "corporate 
policies", and that may also have a backlash effect on us. These clinics are 
growing too rapidly, and many, without any real though except the dollar sign. 
As professionals, we need to be careful or it will only support those physicians 

that are complaining already. Marty?
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