[NPInfo] collaboration question

[David Mittman]

Shelby and Priscilla:
I am back!
Have some stuff going on so I am grateful for all of my ACC/NP/PA  
friends.
OK, the docs are covering their asses when they say they are there  
for the NP. Why not? They truly think that's what patients want to  
hear and you know what......maybe they do? That is until they meet  
us. Then they know! Have studies ever been done? Is their a trust  
difference between those of us that work with a doc and those that do  
not when the patient is first exposed to us?? Do we really know?

About Priscillas "good guy stuff, agree and disagree. I think that  
anything that says we are different is OK. I might not do it, you  
might not do it, but again, do we know if it works? I personally  
would not go that route.
Touchy feely is what chiropractors have used to build an entire  
profession. That's a bit simplistic but somewhat true.
What I would do is just say, I WILL GIVE YOU A BIT MORE TIME. I WILL  
LISTEN AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WORRIES YOU. COME TALK TO ME. Bet I  
could not keep the people away.
My thoughts on this.
Dave


On Jan 3, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Priscilla Merrill wrote:

> One word -- - weird.  IT implies she's not fully competent on her  
> own.  This
> was my initial response.
> Our local paper has run newspaper ads with "midlevels" being  
> photographed in
> their home/neighborhood in street clothes with a cozy look and a  
> heading, "I
> met my primary care provider at my daughter's soccer game"  One was  
> a male
> PA who collects vintage cars.  So the "guy to guy car camaraderie"  
> perhaps?
>
> What does that have to do with the price of rice?  I think the  
> marketing
> idea is that your NP or PA (both have been featured in these recent  
> ads) is
> they're your friend, your kids' friend's parent etc.  NOTHING about  
> their
> profession or abilities.  Perhaps, giving them the benefit of the  
> doubt,
> they're trying to market the approachability of NP's and PA's but  
> you'd
> NEVER see that about a doc ad.  The subversive message I thought  
> was making
> us the common folk you can chat with.  Kind of a twisted message on  
> our
> personal approach but demeaning in my opinion.
>
> Priscilla Merrill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On  
> Behalf
> Of Shelby Havens
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:28 PM
> To: NP Info
> Subject: RE: [NPInfo] collaboration question
>
>
>
> I just got home from a visit to my primary care physician. On the  
> way out of
> her office, I noticed a flyer on the wall announcing the hiring of  
> a nurse
> practitioner. There was a nice photograph of the NP in her lab  
> coat, and a
> brief bio listing her education, experience, and board cerfication.  
> At the
> bottom of the announcement, the following statement was posted:
>
> "Our physicians will be available to assist with the nurse  
> practitioner's
> clinical decision process if needed".
>
> What do yall think about that?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Shelby Havens, ARNP
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:21:28 -0800> From: bimbelaa at yahoo.com>  
>> Subject:
> Re: [NPInfo] collaboration question> To: npinfo at nurse.net> > More  
> direct
> link to on-line articles:> > http://www.buppert.com/articles.html>  
> > Joseph
> Reis <mastrlock at hotmail.com> wrote:> > I have been wondering if we  
> have put
> together any information regarding the liability that collaborating
> physicians undertake when entering a collaborative agreement with  
> NPs.> > I
> frequently hear physicians concerns about their liability if an NP  
> makes a
> medication error or some such thing. Have any of our legal experts  
> written
> anything definitive regarding this? Maybe an article or paper that  
> I could
> have handy to show them when they misspeak regarding the legal  
> ramifications
> of entering a collaborative agreement? > > Joe> >
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