[NPInfo] collaboration question

David Mittman dmittman at comcast.net
Thu Jan 3 19:47:15 PST 2008


Because they supply a need. The need I still see most is that  
patients want someone who will take some time, listen and actually  
care about them. That has not changed in 30 years and is what we do  
(did) so well. That's why we succeeded.
Dave

On Jan 3, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Shelby Havens wrote:

>
> Dave:
>
> I dunno. If patients want someone to spend more time with them, why  
> are Minute Clinics popping up on every street corner across the  
> country?
>
>
> Peace,
>
> Shelby
>> From: dmittman at advancedprac.com> Subject: Re: [NPInfo]  
>> collaboration question> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 21:47:39 -0500> To:  
>> npinfo at nurse.net> > Shelby and Priscilla:> I am back!> Have some  
>> stuff going on so I am grateful for all of my ACC/NP/PA >  
>> friends.> OK, the docs are covering their asses when they say they  
>> are there > for the NP. Why not? They truly think that's what  
>> patients want to > hear and you know what......maybe they do? That  
>> is until they meet > us. Then they know! Have studies ever been  
>> done? Is their a trust > difference between those of us that work  
>> with a doc and those that do > not when the patient is first  
>> exposed to us?? Do we really know?> > About Priscillas "good guy  
>> stuff, agree and disagree. I think that > anything that says we  
>> are different is OK. I might not do it, you > might not do it, but  
>> again, do we know if it works? I personally > would not go that  
>> route.> Touchy feely is what chiropractors have used to build an  
>> entire > profession. That's a bit simplistic but somewhat true.>  
>> What I would do is just say, I WILL GIVE YOU A BIT MORE TIME. I  
>> WILL > LISTEN AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WORRIES YOU. COME TALK TO  
>> ME. Bet I > could not keep the people away.> My thoughts on this.>  
>> Dave> > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Priscilla Merrill wrote:> >  
>> > One word -- - weird. IT implies she's not fully competent on her  
>> > > own. This> > was my initial response.> > Our local paper has  
>> run newspaper ads with "midlevels" being > > photographed in> >  
>> their home/neighborhood in street clothes with a cozy look and a >  
>> > heading, "I> > met my primary care provider at my daughter's  
>> soccer game" One was > > a male> > PA who collects vintage cars.  
>> So the "guy to guy car camaraderie" > > perhaps?> >> > What does  
>> that have to do with the price of rice? I think the > > marketing>  
>> > idea is that your NP or PA (both have been featured in these  
>> recent > > ads) is> > they're your friend, your kids' friend's  
>> parent etc. NOTHING about > > their> > profession or abilities.  
>> Perhaps, giving them the benefit of the > > doubt,> > they're  
>> trying to market the approachability of NP's and PA's but > >  
>> you'd> > NEVER see that about a doc ad. The subversive message I  
>> thought > > was making> > us the common folk you can chat with.  
>> Kind of a twisted message on > > our> > personal approach but  
>> demeaning in my opinion.> >> > Priscilla Merrill> >> > ----- 
>> Original Message-----> > From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net  
>> [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On > > Behalf> > Of Shelby  
>> Havens> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:28 PM> > To: NP Info>  
>> > Subject: RE: [NPInfo] collaboration question> >> >> >> > I just  
>> got home from a visit to my primary care physician. On the > > way  
>> out of> > her office, I noticed a flyer on the wall announcing the  
>> hiring of > > a nurse> > practitioner. There was a nice photograph  
>> of the NP in her lab > > coat, and a> > brief bio listing her  
>> education, experience, and board cerfication. > > At the> > bottom  
>> of the announcement, the following statement was posted:> >> >  
>> "Our physicians will be available to assist with the nurse > >  
>> practitioner's> > clinical decision process if needed".> >> > What  
>> do yall think about that?> >> >> > Best Regards,> >> > Shelby  
>> Havens, ARNP> >> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:21:28 -0800> From:  
>> bimbelaa at yahoo.com> > >> Subject:> > Re: [NPInfo] collaboration  
>> question> To: npinfo at nurse.net> > More > > direct> > link to on- 
>> line articles:> > http://www.buppert.com/articles.html> > > >  
>> Joseph> > Reis <mastrlock at hotmail.com> wrote:> > I have been  
>> wondering if we > > have put> > together any information regarding  
>> the liability that collaborating> > physicians undertake when  
>> entering a collaborative agreement with > > NPs.> > I> >  
>> frequently hear physicians concerns about their liability if an NP  
>> > > makes a> > medication error or some such thing. Have any of  
>> our legal experts > > written> > anything definitive regarding  
>> this? Maybe an article or paper that > > I could> > have handy to  
>> show them when they misspeak regarding the legal > >  
>> ramifications> > of entering a collaborative agreement? > > Joe>  
>> >> >  
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