[NPInfo] Physician Workshop Proposal

Sat Jan 5 13:00:18 PST 2008

That's a great idea!  Please keep us posted on the response.  I would hope
it would be from a point of view of mutual respect and not "what they can do
for us via slave labor".  I hope you can lead it as you seem very eloquent,
professional and non-threatening in your approach.
We should put in a plug to ACC for co-sponsorship of this should it fly.
It's great to see such fresh nice ideas on the list lately.
March on in 2008,

Priscilla Merrill FNP

-----Original Message-----
From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf
Of Alfredo Bimbela
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 3:20 PM
To: mzychowicz at hvc.rr.com; 'NP Info'
Subject: [NPInfo] Physician Workshop Proposal

Hi,

  I am drafting a proposal that serves to invite/encourage Pri-Med
Representatives to sponsor/support a workshop for physicians who are
interested in developing/building a practice with nurse practitioners and
physician assistants.

  I am not sure whether I will get any response or support, but it will not
be for lack of trying on my part.

  If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on this topic, please let me know.

  Alfredo

Michael Zychowicz <mzychowicz at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
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  Nice professional comments.  Good job representing NPs professionally.  

  I agree with your point that we need to be a little more internet savvy
and get more info out there about our NP profession on You-Tube and other
platforms.  I am actually going to bring it up with my next NY state NP
Association Board of Directors meeting.

  Mike

Michael E. Zychowicz, DNP, RNFA, NP-C, FAANP

Associate Professor of Nursing

Nurse Practitioner

Mount Saint Mary College

330 Powell Avenue

Newburgh, NY 12550

(845) 569-3144 (Office)

(845) 569-3360 (Fax)

www.msmc.edu

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  From: Alfredo Bimbela [mailto:bimbelaa at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:16 PM
To: mzychowicz at hvc.rr.com; NP Info
Subject: RE: [NPInfo] What a NP can do - RE: PA Video

    I posted my comments in the section located below the video clip.
However, I did not go into detail about any portion of the video because I
did not want my observations to create division and distance between our
professions. Here is what I wrote, 

      "It is always difficult to know the scope of practice, educational
background, prescriptive authority, and overall preparation of other
disciplines. Overall, except for one or two inaccurate points about NPs,
this video is great. I am always advocating for physician assistant and
nurse practitioner synergy because we have more in common than people would
like to admit. Have a nice New Year everyone."

    I think we need more nurse practitioner youtube videos promoting and
representing our profession - one from each state would do it.

    Alfredo

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    www.bimbelapublications.com

    www.bimbela.com

Michael Zychowicz <mzychowicz at hvc.rr.com> wrote:

    If you take a look on the u-tube I think there is a spot for a
"rebuttal" or
something like that. I would encourage anyone who thinks this info is
incorrect to say so on there.

Michael E. Zychowicz, DNP, RNFA, NP-C, FAANP
Associate Professor of Nursing
Nurse Practitioner
Mount Saint Mary College
330 Powell Avenue
Newburgh, NY 12550
(845) 569-3144 (Office)
(845) 569-3360 (Fax)
www.msmc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On Behalf
Of Alfredo Bimbela
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 4:16 PM
To: NP Info
Subject: Re: [NPInfo] What a NP can do - RE: PA Video

You ask, "What did she say about NPs that was inaccurate?"

A few points are worth noting about the PA video:

1. First, in reference to selecting a career, she states that she wanted
to do something in between "a nurse" and "physician...so I wanted something
in between". She does not make any distinction about between nurse
practitioners and registered nurses, suggesting that physician assistant
career represents the "in between" career, implying that "a nursing career
does not". Minor point but presents an inaccurate picture to those viewing
the video.

2. She says, "One thing that is very different between a physician
assistant and nurse practitioner is that when you become a nurse
practitioner, you decide what sub-specialty you are going to go into...once
you graduate with OBGYN, you are not allowed to practice anything outside of
that". Misleading and inaccurate.

3. She says, "every six years, I believe we are the only field that has to
re-certify" -Inaccurate.

4. There were other small details but are not worth mentioning. One of the
PAs in the comment section already commented on a few.

The reason I am drawing attention to these fine points is because this is
what is out there for people considering careers, particularly those student
who are deciding between a career as an NP and PA and MD.

Now, had she had said that the NP profession is all over the place with
state to state variability - I would have to say she is on the mark and has
been staying informed about the NP profession :)) 

Overall, I think she attempted to answer some very difficult questions
that many of use, as NPs, find difficult to answer with clarity. 

Alfredo
www.bimbelapublications.com 
www.bimbela.com

David Mittman wrote:
OK. Maybe it's my mood. I do not agree with all that this PA said. 
She I bet is not a 20 year veteran but she seems quite competent. I 
actually think that for someone who is in plastics for a few years 
she is OK. What did she say about NPs that was inaccurate? I thought 
she was pretty spot on and never degrating. Her point was that ALL 
PAs are trained as generalists while most NPs were more vertically/ 
specialty trained,that all PAs were generalists first. Maybe we are 
talking apples and oranges here but I think that's true. That's why 
many states license NPs by specialty, FNP, ANP, PNP, GNP. PAs are 
licensed as PAs and never by specialty? Clearly we specialize but 
that is done later.
Also we started the ACC because we knew that NPs and PAs did not 
understand each other. We have done much to remedy that. Help me as 
to why this is innaccurate?
Cyberhugs,
Dave
PS Watching ER and Jeannie the PA is back for one episode. Seems she 
is running 2 clinics now and is divorced and a Mom. Who just gave her 
the low down on all that she missed in the ER? The nurses....
I am half watching though. Oh, oh she just found out her son has AIDS 
(brain tumor).

On Jan 3, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Alfredo Bimbela wrote:

> This is we wrote the publication "PHYSICIANS: What You Need to Know 
> to Work with a Nurse Practitioner ". The book is tailored 
> specifically for physicians about what they want to know about 
> nurse practitioners. It is simple and to the point on many issues.
> Right now, I am working to bring this publication to members of 
> the AMA.
>
> We have to be proactive and diligent in bringing the information 
> to physicians and not wait for physicians to do the leg work.
>
> Another forum that we can use is youtube.com.
>
> If you want to hear an inaccurate description by a PA about nurse 
> practitioners, view the following:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yFYnFakxM
>
> This is not to pick on this particular PA, but it serves to 
> illustrate that professionals struggle with learning about nurse 
> practitioners.
>
> Just my thoughts,
>
> Alfredo
>
> "suernfnp at iwon.com" wrote:
>
> Alfredo, I agree with you that most docs still do not understand 
> what a NP can bring to their practice. I left my hospital position 
> today and took a full time job with my retail clinic. One of the 
> docs I work with at the hospital asked why I was leaving and I said 
> "because you didn't offer me a job" joking a little with him. He 
> answered seriously, "I can't afford to pay you!" I told him he 
> needed to reframe the idea and think how much money I could EARN 
> for his practice. But he still doesn't get it.
>
> Sue D in MI
>
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