[NPInfo] Physician Workshop Proposal

David Mittman dmittman at advancedprac.com
Sat Jan 5 14:08:16 PST 2008 

Alfredo: HGow about the American College of Clinicians joining your  
effort?
I could run by the Board!??
Dave

On Jan 5, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Alfredo Bimbela wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   I am drafting a proposal that serves to invite/encourage Pri-Med  
> Representatives to sponsor/support a workshop for physicians who  
> are interested in developing/building a practice with nurse  
> practitioners and physician assistants.
>
>   I am not sure whether I will get any response or support, but it  
> will not be for lack of trying on my part.
>
>   If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on this topic, please let  
> me know.
>
>   Alfredo
>
> Michael Zychowicz <mzychowicz at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
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> (#default#ieooui) }                Alfredo,
>
>   Nice professional comments.  Good job representing NPs  
> professionally.
>
>   I agree with your point that we need to be a little more internet  
> savvy and get more info out there about our NP profession on You- 
> Tube and other platforms.  I am actually going to bring it up with  
> my next NY state NP Association Board of Directors meeting.
>
>   Mike
>
>
> Michael E. Zychowicz, DNP, RNFA, NP-C, FAANP
>
> Associate Professor of Nursing
>
> Nurse Practitioner
>
> Mount Saint Mary College
>
> 330 Powell Avenue
>
> Newburgh, NY 12550
>
> (845) 569-3144 (Office)
>
> (845) 569-3360 (Fax)
>
> www.msmc.edu
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>   From: Alfredo Bimbela [mailto:bimbelaa at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:16 PM
> To: mzychowicz at hvc.rr.com; NP Info
> Subject: RE: [NPInfo] What a NP can do - RE: PA Video
>
>
>     I posted my comments in the section located below the video  
> clip. However, I did not go into detail about any portion of the  
> video because I did not want my observations to create division and  
> distance between our professions. Here is what I wrote,
>
>
>
>       "It is always difficult to know the scope of practice,  
> educational background, prescriptive authority, and overall  
> preparation of other disciplines. Overall, except for one or two  
> inaccurate points about NPs, this video is great. I am always  
> advocating for physician assistant and nurse practitioner synergy  
> because we have more in common than people would like to admit.  
> Have a nice New Year everyone."
>
>
>
>     I think we need more nurse practitioner youtube videos  
> promoting and representing our profession - one from each state  
> would do it.
>
>
>
>     Alfredo
>
>
>     -------------------
>
>     www.bimbelapublications.com
>
>     www.bimbela.com
>
>
> Michael Zychowicz <mzychowicz at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>     If you take a look on the u-tube I think there is a spot for a  
> "rebuttal" or
> something like that. I would encourage anyone who thinks this info is
> incorrect to say so on there.
>
> Michael E. Zychowicz, DNP, RNFA, NP-C, FAANP
> Associate Professor of Nursing
> Nurse Practitioner
> Mount Saint Mary College
> 330 Powell Avenue
> Newburgh, NY 12550
> (845) 569-3144 (Office)
> (845) 569-3360 (Fax)
> www.msmc.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npinfo-bounces at nurse.net [mailto:npinfo-bounces at nurse.net] On  
> Behalf
> Of Alfredo Bimbela
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 4:16 PM
> To: NP Info
> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] What a NP can do - RE: PA Video
>
> You ask, "What did she say about NPs that was inaccurate?"
>
> A few points are worth noting about the PA video:
>
> 1. First, in reference to selecting a career, she states that she  
> wanted
> to do something in between "a nurse" and "physician...so I wanted  
> something
> in between". She does not make any distinction about between nurse
> practitioners and registered nurses, suggesting that physician  
> assistant
> career represents the "in between" career, implying that "a nursing  
> career
> does not". Minor point but presents an inaccurate picture to those  
> viewing
> the video.
>
> 2. She says, "One thing that is very different between a physician
> assistant and nurse practitioner is that when you become a nurse
> practitioner, you decide what sub-specialty you are going to go  
> into...once
> you graduate with OBGYN, you are not allowed to practice anything  
> outside of
> that". Misleading and inaccurate.
>
> 3. She says, "every six years, I believe we are the only field that  
> has to
> re-certify" -Inaccurate.
>
> 4. There were other small details but are not worth mentioning. One  
> of the
> PAs in the comment section already commented on a few.
>
> The reason I am drawing attention to these fine points is because  
> this is
> what is out there for people considering careers, particularly  
> those student
> who are deciding between a career as an NP and PA and MD.
>
> Now, had she had said that the NP profession is all over the place  
> with
> state to state variability - I would have to say she is on the mark  
> and has
> been staying informed about the NP profession :))
>
> Overall, I think she attempted to answer some very difficult questions
> that many of use, as NPs, find difficult to answer with clarity.
>
>
> Alfredo
> www.bimbelapublications.com
> www.bimbela.com
>
> David Mittman wrote:
> OK. Maybe it's my mood. I do not agree with all that this PA said.
> She I bet is not a 20 year veteran but she seems quite competent. I
> actually think that for someone who is in plastics for a few years
> she is OK. What did she say about NPs that was inaccurate? I thought
> she was pretty spot on and never degrating. Her point was that ALL
> PAs are trained as generalists while most NPs were more vertically/
> specialty trained,that all PAs were generalists first. Maybe we are
> talking apples and oranges here but I think that's true. That's why
> many states license NPs by specialty, FNP, ANP, PNP, GNP. PAs are
> licensed as PAs and never by specialty? Clearly we specialize but
> that is done later.
> Also we started the ACC because we knew that NPs and PAs did not
> understand each other. We have done much to remedy that. Help me as
> to why this is innaccurate?
> Cyberhugs,
> Dave
> PS Watching ER and Jeannie the PA is back for one episode. Seems she
> is running 2 clinics now and is divorced and a Mom. Who just gave her
> the low down on all that she missed in the ER? The nurses....
> I am half watching though. Oh, oh she just found out her son has AIDS
> (brain tumor).
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Alfredo Bimbela wrote:
>
>> This is we wrote the publication "PHYSICIANS: What You Need to Know
>> to Work with a Nurse Practitioner ". The book is tailored
>> specifically for physicians about what they want to know about
>> nurse practitioners. It is simple and to the point on many issues.
>> Right now, I am working to bring this publication to members of
>> the AMA.
>>
>> We have to be proactive and diligent in bringing the information
>> to physicians and not wait for physicians to do the leg work.
>>
>> Another forum that we can use is youtube.com.
>>
>> If you want to hear an inaccurate description by a PA about nurse
>> practitioners, view the following:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yFYnFakxM
>>
>> This is not to pick on this particular PA, but it serves to
>> illustrate that professionals struggle with learning about nurse
>> practitioners.
>>
>> Just my thoughts,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>> "suernfnp at iwon.com" wrote:
>>
>> Alfredo, I agree with you that most docs still do not understand
>> what a NP can bring to their practice. I left my hospital position
>> today and took a full time job with my retail clinic. One of the
>> docs I work with at the hospital asked why I was leaving and I said
>> "because you didn't offer me a job" joking a little with him. He
>> answered seriously, "I can't afford to pay you!" I told him he
>> needed to reframe the idea and think how much money I could EARN
>> for his practice. But he still doesn't get it.
>>
>> Sue D in MI
>>
>>
>>
>>
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