[NPInfo] Pri-Med Proposal Idea

Mon Jan 7 14:52:21 PST 2008

The idea I get is that AANP is not a co-sponsor (sponsors provide funding), nor may it have any power to decide on speakers or topics--but it's hard to know exactly unless you ask AANP, I suppose. I think they just provide access to their membership, from what it says at pri-med.com.

Since we began this thread I took a look at Pri-Med's website trying to penetrate through the slick language to figure who exactly they are. They speak of "the Pri-Med Institute" as if there is an ivy covered building someplace, but nowhere does it say just who or what this is. 

It's fascinating to speculate on what Pri-Med actually is. Here is my guess:

I think it's some sort of for-profit machine that pulls together pharmaceutical companies who provide the sponsorship monies, and perhaps a list of speakers from their paid stable of speakers (who are mostly MDs who are more or less true believers--the so-called "opinion leaders"). 

AANP, and some state affiliates of the AMA, some insco's, and some pharmacists' organizations are all "healthcare partners." .

It appears that in exchange for giving their mailing lists to Pri-Med so it can publicize its offerings, they are allowed to exhibit at Pri-Med events. 

The powerpoints are actually put together by third party companies who have that service as a product line, and I'm sure the drug companies pay for it. Certainly the speakers don't pay for it. The names of these third party companies are actually in the Pri-Med program because I looked up some of them.

I didn't see any mention of any advisory boards or governing boards, CEO, president, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if it were an independent corporation but wholly owned by a consortium of drug companies. That's just speculation, though. I am really sure it's not a bona fide educational organization. 

Here's a great website for anyone interested in the business side of healthcare, who wants to learn things that professional journals don't dare publish for fear of losing advertising revenue from Big Pharma. I think we all should know about this side of our own professional milieu. I hope the much-vaunted DNP programs prepare their graduates to be a little more business savvy than many NPs currently are. We should all be concerned about the quality of CME and that what we learn will help us make decisions that are in the best interests of our patients.

This is a not for profit organization funded by the Pew Charitable Trust:

www.prescriptionproject.org

The blog page is especially fascinating. 

Stephanie Walker, FNP

----- Original Message -----
From: Jean Aertker 
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2008 10:29 pm
Subject: [NPInfo] Pri-Med Proposal Idea
To: npinfo at nurse.net

> This idea is timely-continue to move forward. For years I've 
> scanned the 
> Pri-Med programs looking for solo NP presenters-few and far 
> between. As AANP 
> is a co-sponsor of some Pri-Med seminars, perhaps Exec Dir. 
> Judith Dempster 
> can assist with introductions as well.
> Marta is correct, several years ago Pri-Med in Ft Lauderdale 
> featured a solo 
> NP role presentation who had same concerns- MD only presenters 
> and she spoke 
> out at the keynote address. The following year, Pri-Med added 
> the NP to 
> program - but after the presentation, many felt an opportunity 
> was missed. 
> Now in Florida, docs are getting mandatory CE hrs for medical 
> errors content 
> that features content such as "Legal issues when working with 
> Mid-Levels"- 
> quoting and misquoting statutes and case law... Some of this 
> information the 
> docs receive is incorrect and damaging to our practice. For 
> instance, a 
> large med mal insurance group, FPIC (in Fl, GA, AK primarily) 
> has a document 
> for docs entitled, Physician Extender Liability: Preventative 
> Action and 
> Loss Reduction Plan that's been out a couple years. (you gotta 
> see this 
> document: 
> http://www.firstprofessionals.com/pdf/Physician%20Extenders.pdf ). 
> Their definition of NP:
> Nurse Practitioner (NP): Nurse practitioners are registered 
> nurses with a 
> Master of Science degree and training in their area of 
> specialty. Their 
> scope is defined by the state's board of nursing. NPs function 
> most often in 
> primary care physicians' offices performing physical exams and 
> treating 
> noncomplex complaints. They can be supervised by a PA employed 
> by the 
> monitoring physician or physician group.
> 
> We must continue to educate everyone we can about NPs and 
> correct these 
> misperceptions - and monitor what others think we do or do not do.
> Jean Aertker, ARNP, Tampa
> 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:09:45 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Alfredo Bimbela 
> > Subject: Re: [NPInfo] Pri-Med Physician Workshop Proposal
> > To: NP Info 
> > Message-ID: <815232.80259.qm at web51812.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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> >
> > Good morning everyone,
> >
> > As this idea takes on more shape and form, deciding whether a 
> key note 
> > speaker or a focused presentation/workshop will optimize the 
> intended goal 
> > of building physician-nurse practitioner-physician assistant 
> teams will 
> > ultimately need to be decided by the Pri-Med committee.
> >
> > At this point, based on my conversations with select 
> physicians, I am 
> > leaning towards a hands-on workshop that is guided by 
> practicality and a 
> > step by step, tailored approach for physicians.
> >
> > It would be nice to offer physicians follow-up support so 
> that they are 
> > able to ask questions without feeling professionally exposed. 
> I had one 
> > physician pull me aside at a hospital and quietly ask me 
> questions about 
> > nurse practitioners with a sense of "perhaps I should already 
> know this".
> >
> > Evidence to Support the Idea:
> >
> > If you would like to help with this endeavor, please ask at 
> least one 
> > physician the following questions:
> >
> > 1. Would you attend a Pri-Med workshop or presentation 
> that offers 
> > information and tools about working with nurse practitioners 
> and physician 
> > assistants?
> >
> > 2. Would you prefer to attend a presentation or workshop?
> >
> > I will collect my own observations but it would be nice to 
> have 
> > information from other regions in the country.
> >
> > Please feel free to email me privately, if you prefer, your 
> observations 
> > and/or opinions.
> >
> > As David points out, this is a start with the potential to 
> strengthen our 
> > presence at Pri-Med. I doubt they will entertain the idea of a 
> keynote 
> > speaker, but a workshop in the corner of the conference 
> building is a 
> > start. We only need the door to be open just enough to walk in.
> >
> > Stephanie - We can't improve what we don't start. Don't give 
> up just yet. 
> > If we extend our hand to Pri-Med, they might just reach out 
> and shake our 
> > hand.
> >
> > Margaret - it's good to know that you know some of the people 
> on the 
> > Pri-Med committee. I am inquiring about our contacts here on 
> the West 
> > Coast as well.
> >
> > I am working on finalizing the draft,
> >
> > Alfredo
> > -------------------------
> > www.bimbelapublications.com
> > www.bimbela.com
> >
> >
> > Mvallin at aol.com wrote:
> > A few years ago at Pri-Med in Florida one of the keynote 
> speakers was a
> > University of Miami Professor and NP. She was promoting NP 
> practice. 
> > However
> > she was too militant in her ideas and we NP's that were in the 
> audience 
> > thought
> > her presentation created more animosity than collaboration. 
> Saying that, I
> > believe a keynote speaker would be the best way to capture the 
> physician> audience.
> >
> > Marta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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