[NPInfo] 60 Minutes. Did you see?

Sue Wiers sgwiers at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 4 02:18:52 PST 2008


Such a complicated issue (universal health care/socialized medicine).  It has been 10 years since I studied this in grad school, but the bottom line as I recall is that we pay significantly more per capita than any other developed nation, we are the only developed nation that does not insure each member of our society, and we have no better (and in some cases worse) outcomes.  Perhaps that picture has changed and we now have superior outcomes for all of our expenditures (doubtful).  There definitely are flaws in the systems other developed nations have, but ours fails so many, i.e, the underinsured and uninsured.  There has to be a better way that covers each member of our society.
 
Sue



> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:11:12 -0800> From: carla_rayne at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NPInfo] 60 Minutes. Did you see?> To: npinfo at nurse.net> > I did not see it, but that has always been one of my goals is to have a side free clinic, or offer volunteer health services, once I get in the black enough to pay my own bills. I am not there yet, but I think it is wonderful that there is a group starting to make a significant difference. I think that is the way to help balance out some of this incredibly expensive healthcare..for example I am self employed and my health insurance costs me 438.00 a month because of my age, and some health conditions. That does not include the deductible or co insurance. Do any of you experience that if you are self employed? That is just way too much. It should be half that. There are some policies out there now that work with Health Savings Accts, so that you can put pre tax money in, and use it for your visits, but they still work better when you are not self employed, and they have very high deductibles. I would be interested in hearing what other insurance plans people have, if> they are self employed. > > There was a program on the radio today, speaking about whether we should have a socialized type plan, and the rebuttal was that the AMA would put out an incredible spin as they did back when Ronald Reagan proposed it, and then Hilary Clinton, and convince people they would get substandard care, or have long waits, etc.. They said that America just has this view of remaining in a competitive market, including the business of healthcare.. I think healthcare is a business, but that there needs to be a balance, because it may be used as a business, but a person's health is far different than servicing a car, or selling a house, and cannot be thought of in the same way. Carla/Oregon> > David Mittman <dmittman at advancedprac.com> wrote:> Cool. Help us help.> Dave> On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Paula Sumner wrote:> > > oops, I just posted on this, and did not see your postings. It was > > a great story. Paula> >> > David Mittman wrote: Tonight they had a > > segment on that if viewed, had to have moved you.> > If you care about people and care for people it had to have even> > moved you more. I can only hope you saw the segment on the> > organization that has started to provide free volunteer healthcare to> > our citizens across the USA.> > They started out as an international organization providing care in> > South America, etc., but now 60% is given throughout the USA.> > Their name is Remote Area Medical (REM) http://www.ramusa.org/ .> > Anyone ever work with them? They did a segment where they provided> > free care in Knoxville, TN and after working their tails off, they> > still turned away 500 people. They did interview an NP who was> > working with the group that weekend. Very positive.> > I (we) would like to take the first of many steps to form a liasion> > between the ACC and REM. First I need to talk with the Board. I will> > try to collect information. If they check out and agree, we would put> > a link on our web site and ask all NPs and PAs to donate their time> > and money. As a 15 minute segment was devoted to them tonight, I can> > only suppose 60 Minutes checked them out significantly. So, I again> > ask if you know anything about them?> > So, if they have it on their web site, please watch the segment.> > Sometimes we can change the world one person at a time.> > Dave> > Dave Mittman, PA> > Secretary> > American College of Clinicianswww.amcollege.org> > Dave at comcast.netCell-973-865-4216> >> > Read. Think. Join. Participate.> >> > We did not come over in the same ship, but we ARE in the same boat.> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > NPInfo mailing list> > NPInfo at nurse.net> > http://lists.nurse.net/mailman/listinfo/npinfo> > *****************************> >> >> >> > Paula J. Sumner RN, MSN, HTP, CHt> > Healing Touch, Hypnotherapy, Emotional Freedom Technique, Reiki-2> >> > 919-969-9725> >> > http://paulajsumner.byregion.net Referral ID#10102918> >> > http://www.justanswer.com/home.asp?r=HolisticNurse&bn=2> >> > http://www.letstalkcounseling.com/sites/paulasumner> >> > ---------------------------------> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > > Search.> > _______________________________________________> > NPInfo mailing list> > NPInfo at nurse.net> > http://lists.nurse.net/mailman/listinfo/npinfo> > *****************************> > _______________________________________________> NPInfo mailing list> NPInfo at nurse.net> http://lists.nurse.net/mailman/listinfo/npinfo> *****************************> > > > Carla R. Anderson, FNP-C> Healing Presence Family Practice, PC > carla_rayne at yahoo.com> 503 819 9726> _______________________________________________> NPInfo mailing list> NPInfo at nurse.net> http://lists.nurse.net/mailman/listinfo/npinfo> *****************************
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