From maxiaochen at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  5 16:56:03 2005
From: maxiaochen at yahoo.com (amy ma)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:56:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
In-Reply-To: <HLEIKJMKPHECNAFMIEBJAEOKCAAA.gclemens@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20051106005603.68738.qmail@web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello, Everybody;
I have been working for an agency in a nursing home
for months.  Now the nursing home has "issues" with
the agency and they want me to work as an independent
contractor.  I really like the nursing home and the
patients there and like to stay.  But I don't know how
I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I should
start?  Any suggestion will be helpful!  Thanks a lot!

Amy 



		
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From shirguy at mindspring.com  Sat Nov  5 18:18:56 2005
From: shirguy at mindspring.com (Guy Graves)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:18:56 -0600
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
Message-ID: <410-22005110621856910@mindspring.com>

Amy, 
	You probably need to consider setting yourself  up as an LLC (protects
your personal assets, and is helpful at tax time and allows you to set up a
self-employed retirement account).  It doesn't change your professional
liability, but certainly adds a buffer of protection for you.  Check to
make sure you don't have a Non-Compete clause.  When I worked agency, I had
some with non-compete clauses that stipulated I could not accept employment
from a facilty for 6 months after I had worked there through the agency.  
However, being in an independent, private practice and working for myself
is WONDERFUL.  I'm the best boss I've ever had.  I understand me, and am
compassionate with me, and more demanding of my performance standards than
anyone else could be. 
	Check to see how the agency bills, most use a triplicate form that is
signed by a facility staff.  And the billing is then done via computer
detail.  Check with you facility buddy, ask for help in set up, and
validate it with your business lawyer to make sure your contract protects
you and your practice.  Make sure you have a great liability/Malpractice
insurance policy and that the policy issuer knows about the change in your
practice.  Being an independent contractor means you are taking greater
liability risks, you'll want to make sure your policy covers you.  Some
policies cover you as a practicing provider, but not if you are the owner. 
And as an independent contractor You Are The Owner, regardless of whether
you use an LLC designation or not.  Make sure your contract provides an
income that is worth the added risk to your practice.

	Good Luck!

Shirley Mohren-Graves, CNS, ARNP, BC 




> [Original Message]
> From: amy ma <maxiaochen at yahoo.com>
> To: <prvpracnp at nurse.net>
> Date: 11/5/05 6:56:33 PM
> Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
>
> Hello, Everybody;
> I have been working for an agency in a nursing home
> for months.  Now the nursing home has "issues" with
> the agency and they want me to work as an independent
> contractor.  I really like the nursing home and the
> patients there and like to stay.  But I don't know how
> I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I should
> start?  Any suggestion will be helpful!  Thanks a lot!
>
> Amy 
>
>
>
> 		
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From: HouseofHop at aol.com (HouseofHop at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:37:47 EST
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
Message-ID: <23b.8ca352.30a0341b@aol.com>

You can contact me off line at (901) 268-8635.

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From: HouseofHop at aol.com (HouseofHop at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:38:32 EST
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Delete last message
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From hogannp at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  7 15:24:39 2005
From: hogannp at yahoo.com (Steven Hogan)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:24:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Re: PrvPracNP Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <200511062000.jA6K04M10270@merlin.wizards.net>
Message-ID: <20051107232439.78773.qmail@web54710.mail.yahoo.com>

Amy,
 
Which state do you work in?  Are you a FNP?  Are you required to have a supervising physician?
 
Steve

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From: amy ma <maxiaochen at yahoo.com>
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:56:03 -0800 (PST)
To: prvpracnp at nurse.net

Hello, Everybody;
I have been working for an agency in a nursing home
for months. Now the nursing home has "issues" with
the agency and they want me to work as an independent
contractor. I really like the nursing home and the
patients there and like to stay. But I don't know how
I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I should
start? Any suggestion will be helpful! Thanks a lot!

Amy 




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From: "Guy Graves" <shirguy at mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:18:56 -0600
To: "Private Practice NPs" <prvpracnp at nurse.net>

Amy, 
You probably need to consider setting yourself up as an LLC (protects
your personal assets, and is helpful at tax time and allows you to set up a
self-employed retirement account). It doesn't change your professional
liability, but certainly adds a buffer of protection for you. Check to
make sure you don't have a Non-Compete clause. When I worked agency, I had
some with non-compete clauses that stipulated I could not accept employment
from a facilty for 6 months after I had worked there through the agency. 
However, being in an independent, private practice and working for myself
is WONDERFUL. I'm the best boss I've ever had. I understand me, and am
compassionate with me, and more demanding of my performance standards than
anyone else could be. 
Check to see how the agency bills, most use a triplicate form that is
signed by a facility staff. And the billing is then done via computer
detail. Check with you facility buddy, ask for help in set up, and
validate it with your business lawyer to make sure your contract protects
you and your practice. Make sure you have a great liability/Malpractice
insurance policy and that the policy issuer knows about the change in your
practice. Being an independent contractor means you are taking greater
liability risks, you'll want to make sure your policy covers you. Some
policies cover you as a practicing provider, but not if you are the owner. 
And as an independent contractor You Are The Owner, regardless of whether
you use an LLC designation or not. Make sure your contract provides an
income that is worth the added risk to your practice.

Good Luck!

Shirley Mohren-Graves, CNS, ARNP, BC 




> [Original Message]
> From: amy ma 
> To: 

> Date: 11/5/05 6:56:33 PM
> Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
>
> Hello, Everybody;
> I have been working for an agency in a nursing home
> for months. Now the nursing home has "issues" with
> the agency and they want me to work as an independent
> contractor. I really like the nursing home and the
> patients there and like to stay. But I don't know how
> I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I should
> start? Any suggestion will be helpful! Thanks a lot!
>
> Amy 
>
>
>
> 
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From maxiaochen at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  7 20:40:48 2005
From: maxiaochen at yahoo.com (amy ma)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:40:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Re: PrvPracNP Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <20051107232439.78773.qmail@web54710.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051108044048.73802.qmail@web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thank you for all the suggestions and information.  
I am a FNP working in New York.  We need to have a
collaborate physician.

Amy

--- Steven Hogan <hogannp at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Amy,
>  
> Which state do you work in?  Are you a FNP?  Are you
> required to have a supervising physician?
>  
> Steve
> 
> prvpracnp-request at nurse.net wrote:
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> 1. Nursing home visit (amy ma)
> 2. RE: Nursing home visit (Guy Graves)
> From: amy ma <maxiaochen at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:56:03 -0800 (PST)
> To: prvpracnp at nurse.net
> 
> Hello, Everybody;
> I have been working for an agency in a nursing home
> for months. Now the nursing home has "issues" with
> the agency and they want me to work as an
> independent
> contractor. I really like the nursing home and the
> patients there and like to stay. But I don't know
> how
> I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I
> should
> start? Any suggestion will be helpful! Thanks a lot!
> 
> Amy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________ 
> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in
> one click.
> http://farechase.yahoo.com
> From: "Guy Graves" <shirguy at mindspring.com>
> Subject: RE: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:18:56 -0600
> To: "Private Practice NPs" <prvpracnp at nurse.net>
> 
> Amy, 
> You probably need to consider setting yourself up as
> an LLC (protects
> your personal assets, and is helpful at tax time and
> allows you to set up a
> self-employed retirement account). It doesn't change
> your professional
> liability, but certainly adds a buffer of protection
> for you. Check to
> make sure you don't have a Non-Compete clause. When
> I worked agency, I had
> some with non-compete clauses that stipulated I
> could not accept employment
> from a facilty for 6 months after I had worked there
> through the agency. 
> However, being in an independent, private practice
> and working for myself
> is WONDERFUL. I'm the best boss I've ever had. I
> understand me, and am
> compassionate with me, and more demanding of my
> performance standards than
> anyone else could be. 
> Check to see how the agency bills, most use a
> triplicate form that is
> signed by a facility staff. And the billing is then
> done via computer
> detail. Check with you facility buddy, ask for help
> in set up, and
> validate it with your business lawyer to make sure
> your contract protects
> you and your practice. Make sure you have a great
> liability/Malpractice
> insurance policy and that the policy issuer knows
> about the change in your
> practice. Being an independent contractor means you
> are taking greater
> liability risks, you'll want to make sure your
> policy covers you. Some
> policies cover you as a practicing provider, but not
> if you are the owner. 
> And as an independent contractor You Are The Owner,
> regardless of whether
> you use an LLC designation or not. Make sure your
> contract provides an
> income that is worth the added risk to your
> practice.
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
> Shirley Mohren-Graves, CNS, ARNP, BC 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: amy ma 
> > To: 
> 
> > Date: 11/5/05 6:56:33 PM
> > Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
> >
> > Hello, Everybody;
> > I have been working for an agency in a nursing
> home
> > for months. Now the nursing home has "issues" with
> > the agency and they want me to work as an
> independent
> > contractor. I really like the nursing home and the
> > patients there and like to stay. But I don't know
> how
> > I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I
> should
> > start? Any suggestion will be helpful! Thanks a
> lot!
> >
> > Amy 
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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From GIN11153 at aol.com  Tue Nov  8 12:20:03 2005
From: GIN11153 at aol.com (GIN11153 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:20:03 EST
Subject: [PrvPracNP] For Shirley (and others) about LLC
Message-ID: <236.b5fa40.30a26273@aol.com>

In many states, like California, nurses, NP or not, cannot be an LLC, so it  
would be important to first check with a local attorney on the state's laws.  

Gail Neuman  RNC CPHW SNP LNC
listowner of  LegalNurseConsulting at yahoogroups.com
certified high risk OB/legal nurse  consultant
Notary Public/Certified Loan Signing Agent
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From shirguy at mindspring.com  Tue Nov  8 20:07:26 2005
From: shirguy at mindspring.com (Guy Graves)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:07:26 -0600
Subject: [PrvPracNP] For Gail about LLC
Message-ID: <410-2200511394726190@mindspring.com>

Absolutely.  Checking with a CPA and a business attorney is crucial to protect your practice.  Shirley





In many states, like California, nurses, NP or not, cannot be an LLC, so it would be important to first check with a local attorney on the state's laws. 

Gail Neuman RNC CPHW SNP LNC
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From pamme at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 15 09:02:10 2005
From: pamme at sbcglobal.net (NP Angel)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:02:10 -0600
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
References: <410-22005110621856910@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <031d01c5ea06$51b1fe50$f312fea9@PamelaProv05>

Or, you could be a PC, Inc. or whatever.  Your business attorney would be your best resource.  Anyone can est. a business, regardless of whether they are an NP or not.  It's all in how it is set up by your attorney.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Guy Graves 
  To: Private Practice NPs 
  Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:18 PM
  Subject: RE: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit


  Amy, 
  You probably need to consider setting yourself  up as an LLC (protects
  your personal assets, and is helpful at tax time and allows you to set up a
  self-employed retirement account).  It doesn't change your professional
  liability, but certainly adds a buffer of protection for you.  Check to
  make sure you don't have a Non-Compete clause.  When I worked agency, I had
  some with non-compete clauses that stipulated I could not accept employment
  from a facilty for 6 months after I had worked there through the agency.  
  However, being in an independent, private practice and working for myself
  is WONDERFUL.  I'm the best boss I've ever had.  I understand me, and am
  compassionate with me, and more demanding of my performance standards than
  anyone else could be. 
  Check to see how the agency bills, most use a triplicate form that is
  signed by a facility staff.  And the billing is then done via computer
  detail.  Check with you facility buddy, ask for help in set up, and
  validate it with your business lawyer to make sure your contract protects
  you and your practice.  Make sure you have a great liability/Malpractice
  insurance policy and that the policy issuer knows about the change in your
  practice.  Being an independent contractor means you are taking greater
  liability risks, you'll want to make sure your policy covers you.  Some
  policies cover you as a practicing provider, but not if you are the owner. 
  And as an independent contractor You Are The Owner, regardless of whether
  you use an LLC designation or not.  Make sure your contract provides an
  income that is worth the added risk to your practice.

  Good Luck!

  Shirley Mohren-Graves, CNS, ARNP, BC 




  > [Original Message]
  > From: amy ma <maxiaochen at yahoo.com>
  > To: <prvpracnp at nurse.net>
  > Date: 11/5/05 6:56:33 PM
  > Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
  >
  > Hello, Everybody;
  > I have been working for an agency in a nursing home
  > for months.  Now the nursing home has "issues" with
  > the agency and they want me to work as an independent
  > contractor.  I really like the nursing home and the
  > patients there and like to stay.  But I don't know how
  > I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I should
  > start?  Any suggestion will be helpful!  Thanks a lot!
  >
  > Amy 
  >
  >
  >
  > 
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From pamme at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 15 09:12:03 2005
From: pamme at sbcglobal.net (NP Angel)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:12:03 -0600
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
References: <20051106005603.68738.qmail@web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03dd01c5ea07$b377a300$f312fea9@PamelaProv05>

Amy,
You wouldn't happen to be in CT per chance?
Ciao,
Pamme in Indy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: amy ma 
  To: prvpracnp at nurse.net 
  Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:56 PM
  Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit


  Hello, Everybody;
  I have been working for an agency in a nursing home
  for months.  Now the nursing home has "issues" with
  the agency and they want me to work as an independent
  contractor.  I really like the nursing home and the
  patients there and like to stay.  But I don't know how
  I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I should
  start?  Any suggestion will be helpful!  Thanks a lot!

  Amy 




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From maxiaochen at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 15 10:05:01 2005
From: maxiaochen at yahoo.com (amy ma)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:05:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
In-Reply-To: <03dd01c5ea07$b377a300$f312fea9@PamelaProv05>
Message-ID: <20051115180501.66502.qmail@web32010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am in New York.
Amy

--- NP Angel <pamme at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Amy,
> You wouldn't happen to be in CT per chance?
> Ciao,
> Pamme in Indy
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: amy ma 
>   To: prvpracnp at nurse.net 
>   Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:56 PM
>   Subject: [PrvPracNP] Nursing home visit
> 
> 
>   Hello, Everybody;
>   I have been working for an agency in a nursing
> home
>   for months.  Now the nursing home has "issues"
> with
>   the agency and they want me to work as an
> independent
>   contractor.  I really like the nursing home and
> the
>   patients there and like to stay.  But I don't know
> how
>   I can bill as a contractor. Anybody know how I
> should
>   start?  Any suggestion will be helpful!  Thanks a
> lot!
> 
>   Amy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   __________________________________ 
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Long Island University
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